EL166 MTM ML-TL - Page 2

jimbro · 29th May 2011, 06:12 PM

Mr. italynstylion - how would compare these to your coniston^2s?

italynstylion · 31st May 2011, 07:50 PM

The cabs with the el166 and ert tweeters is more detailed and has better dispersion. One thing I will say is that the coniston^2 has a very nice stage presence. The side firing driver really brings life to the room. Bass response is good on both but more controlled on the el166 drivers really just because of the cone area advantage

jimbro · 31st May 2011, 10:49 PM

Thanks - kind of what you'd guess I suppose. I like the side firing idea and the ambience it would provide even though it may make some purists cringe which I also find enjoyable.

italynstylion · 1st June 2011, 03:11 AM

Ehhh, to be honest I think it might be closer to "real" than a normal speaker. Live music, being sang or made with instruments, doesn't project in only one direction. So saying a speaker that projects in multiple directions is wrong by design doesn't seem to be 100% accurate in my book. I think that a lot of these different designs all have something unique about them that's beneficial and that's what makes them special.

jimbro · 1st June 2011, 02:07 PM

I agree with that. I should have more correctly said those who consider themselves to be purists. I worked with a few of them at a high-end retailer in Houston back in the 70's. Their nostrils would flare at any attempt to add ambience. Of course they hated Bose but so did I ,not because of the concept but because they were junk and I had to fix (or totally rebuild) them.

zman01 · 6th June 2011, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by italynstylion

I'll have to look for it and also ask the person who designed it if it's ok to be posted. Remind me with a PM if I forget.

Steve,

This system is bi-amped?

Regards,
Zia

italynstylion · 14th June 2011, 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zman01

Steve,

This system is bi-amped?

Regards,
Zia

Nope, single pair of binding posts with a final impedance of 8ohms if I recall correctly. I don't have this set in my home anymore (gave them to a friend) so I can't pull the crossovers and look at them. My friend who did the design for the crossover has been very busy lately with work but I'm trying to catch him when he's got a free moment.

zman01 · 14th June 2011, 05:05 AM

Thank you Steve and look forward to hearing from you. Hope your friend can catch a breather soon

.

-Zia

jimbro · 24th June 2011, 11:39 AM

Is there any particular reason the mid-tweet is between the woofs? Thinking about moving the top woofer down and the mid-tweet above it and mounting another mid-tweet on top facing up. Thoughts?

zman01 · 24th June 2011, 02:08 PM

Jimbro,

Probably to reduce lobing issues. Tweeter and woofer centers cannot be too far apart. Please refer to Planet10's post # 839 of following thread:

Mar-Kel70 in Sweden

If Dave is reading this please chime in.

-Zia

31st May 2011, 07:50 PM	#12
italynstylion diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Dallas, Tx.	The cabs with the el166 and ert tweeters is more detailed and has better dispersion. One thing I will say is that the coniston^2 has a very nice stage presence. The side firing driver really brings life to the room. Bass response is good on both but more controlled on the el166 drivers really just because of the cone area advantage __________________ www.StereoClarity.com

1st June 2011, 03:11 AM	#14
italynstylion diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Dallas, Tx.	Ehhh, to be honest I think it might be closer to "real" than a normal speaker. Live music, being sang or made with instruments, doesn't project in only one direction. So saying a speaker that projects in multiple directions is wrong by design doesn't seem to be 100% accurate in my book. I think that a lot of these different designs all have something unique about them that's beneficial and that's what makes them special. __________________ www.StereoClarity.com

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29th May 2011, 06:12 PM	#11
jimbro diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: somewhere in Texas	Mr. italynstylion - how would compare these to your coniston^2s?

31st May 2011, 10:49 PM	#13
jimbro diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: somewhere in Texas	Thanks - kind of what you'd guess I suppose. I like the side firing idea and the ambience it would provide even though it may make some purists cringe which I also find enjoyable.

1st June 2011, 02:07 PM	#15
jimbro diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: somewhere in Texas	I agree with that. I should have more correctly said those who consider themselves to be purists. I worked with a few of them at a high-end retailer in Houston back in the 70's. Their nostrils would flare at any attempt to add ambience. Of course they hated Bose but so did I ,not because of the concept but because they were junk and I had to fix (or totally rebuild) them.

14th June 2011, 05:05 AM	#18
zman01 diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Dhaka	Thank you Steve and look forward to hearing from you. Hope your friend can catch a breather soon . -Zia

24th June 2011, 11:39 AM	#19
jimbro diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: somewhere in Texas	Is there any particular reason the mid-tweet is between the woofs? Thinking about moving the top woofer down and the mid-tweet above it and mounting another mid-tweet on top facing up. Thoughts?

24th June 2011, 02:08 PM	#20
zman01 diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Dhaka	Jimbro, Probably to reduce lobing issues. Tweeter and woofer centers cannot be too far apart. Please refer to Planet10's post # 839 of following thread: Mar-Kel70 in Sweden If Dave is reading this please chime in. -Zia