|
|||||||
| Home | Forums | Rules | Articles | Store | Gallery | Blogs | Register | Donations | FAQ | Calendar | Search | Today's Posts | Mark Forums Read | Search |
| CSS Creative Sound Solutions (CSS) is a service-oriented provider of high-value speaker components for the DIY loudspeaker builder |
|
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|
|
#11 | |
|
diyAudio Member
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: victoria BC
|
Quote:
yes, Bob - too many designs for us to possibly build all of them - but I think it's fair to say there's probably something for just about everyone, and I do love what I've been able to hear so far edit: Have you or Mark had a chance to measure these yet? At the very least, I think the @80dB figure for sensitivity is low.
__________________
you don't really believe everything you think, do you? community sites t-linespeakers.org, frugal-horn.com commercial site planet10-HiFi |
|
|
|
|
|
#12 |
|
diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
|
Here's the EL70's T/S data and graphs
Revc= 3.600 Ohm Fo= 64 Hz Sd= 50.2 Cm/2 Vas= 6.1 Ltr Cms= 1.702m M/N Mmd= 3.62 g Mms= 3.82 g BL= 2.85 T·M Qms= 3.23 Qes= 0.66 Qts= 0.55 Levc= 0.25 mH No= 0.216 % SPLo= 86 dB Xmax= 4.5mm (1 way) Pwr = 20 W (cont) |
|
|
|
|
#13 |
|
diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jul 2007
|
Have any box plans posted yet?
|
|
|
|
|
#14 | |
|
diyAudio Member
Join Date: Oct 2003
|
Quote:
They're coming, perhaps later today. The kits listed above basically work in .5 cu ft (14 litres) for one driver and .75 - 1.0 cu ft (21-28 litres) for a pair. Bob |
|
|
|
|
|
#15 |
|
diyAudio Moderator
|
__________________
community sites t-linespeakers.org, frugal-horn.com ........ commercial site planet10-HiFi p10-hifi forum here at diyA |
|
|
|
|
#16 |
|
diyAudio Member
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Toronto
|
Hmmm I wonder if this Desktop TL will work with the CHR-70? looking for a desktop TL for a system I'm putting together for my mother, could be an interesting design. Anywho I could always try and see even though specs are quite different from ther EL70.
__________________
GOD uses Fullrangers |
|
|
|
|
#17 |
|
diyAudio Member
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Toronto
|
Just to clarify I don't mean "WILL THIS CABINET DESIGN" work with the CHR-70 more along the lines of how well a TL will work with the CHR-70 as I'm still trying to find a design I'm happy with...
__________________
GOD uses Fullrangers |
|
|
|
|
#18 |
|
diyAudio Moderator
|
I think Henkjan may have also done one for CHR ... he is on holiday right now so hard to ask...
dave
__________________
community sites t-linespeakers.org, frugal-horn.com ........ commercial site planet10-HiFi p10-hifi forum here at diyA |
|
|
|
|
#19 |
|
diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
|
Hi Guys,
Bob has asked me to point out some features on the EL70. Much of the following info also applies to my other designs. Please take a look at the picture as I've numbered the features. 1 - Surround: there's various grades of material available. Cheaper drivers will use single or dual mix butyl. The EL70 uses a tri-mix Ei grade, a type mostly found on more expensive units. We test each cone/surround sub-assembly to be within +/- 3(Fo-Hz) of its design rating. This is very close tolerance for a lower cost driver. 2 - Bonds: single bond glues cost less. On the EL70, an A/B mixed bond is used to get the solid connection needed to make the cap acoustically efficient. 3 - Cones: there's a lot of talk about paper cones. The EL70's cone paper is sourced from Japan, the source for most of the best papers. The material is important but also must be accurately moulded. Our new Multiform process give us micro-control over the complete surface of the cone, making all production cones precise at the micro level. 4 - Frame: is a mixed polymer. it's rigid, strong and acts as a resonance damping component. I make no apologies to those who love metal frames, many ring like a bell sending stray resonance's into the cabinet. We could have cut costs by using an "off the shelf" frame, instead the EL70 uses the same Markaudio custom frame found on the CHR-70. 5 - Connector: this humble part is custom sized. So many drivers come with this component straight from the parts bin, not the case for the EL70. Most cheap drivers have this part riveted to the frame. On the EL70, its glued and screwed. 6 - Coil to cone: the fit tolerance on many cheaper drivers is up to 0/+0.5mm. On the EL70, its 0/+0.1mm. We use less glue because the fit is more accurate. Less glue means less mass and less variation in the moving mass of the power-train. 7 - Spiders: cheaper drivers (and many expensive units) use Conex and similar grade materials. These grades of material are mostly fine depending on the weave selection for a given load. The factory standard tolerance is +/-0.15 on the specified stiffness rating. Typically, a spider can vary by as much as 35% of the mean stiffness within a batch. This can result in a wide range of variance in the resonance frequencies within a batch of drivers. This is not the case with the EL70. Each spider is individually checked to a working tolerance of +/-0.1, much tighter than most other driver production. 8 - Power-train layout: This section of a driver design is critical. I design the layout to make sure there is no spider damage during the soldering process. One small undetected nick in the spider will reduce the life of the driver and results in an un-even distribution of the stiffness compliance. The flying leads are accurately positioned with enough room to remain clear of other driver parts while under LF loads. These are some of the features, there's much more but I'll leave them for another time. Some of you know my approach to building drivers. For those who are new to these drivers, I "engineer" these units in order to gain consistent high performance and reliable service life. Cheers, Mark. |
|
|
|
|
#20 |
|
diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jul 2007
|
Whats the advantage of having two el70 in an enclosure?
How would you hook them together? Any box plan for that? |
|
|
| Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | |
| Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|
|
|
|
||||
| Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
| microTower bipolar ML-TL for CHR-70 or EL70 | planet10 | Full Range | 465 | Yesterday 04:59 PM |
| Offset Bipolar MLTL with CSS EL70 Drivers--Part 1 | Jim Griffin | Full Range | 44 | 28th July 2010 05:53 PM |
| introducing... | lecky | Introductions | 3 | 2nd May 2006 10:51 PM |
| Just introducing myself. | 3beanlimit | Introductions | 0 | 5th August 2001 05:23 AM |
| New To Site? | Need Help? |
| Page generated in 0.12521 seconds (85.77% PHP - 14.23% MySQL) with 11 queries |