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Old 29th August 2008, 08:06 PM   #31
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I've stumbled on a bit of cool thing. I don't know if it's helpful or not. However Minwax has a product called 'Sanding Sealer' and it is used over hardwood floors in between the stain and the polycoat. It seeps in very shallow very very shallow and hardens the fibers of the wood like...superglue or something. I used it on a very thin mdf backer board to stiffen it up so I can use it as a sled for my table saw. It seals, penetrates and gets rock hard. I'll bet you could use it on a speaker cone to stiffen it up. I might try that experiment with some of the old speaker's I have lying around.

I also plan on putting it on the inside of my speakers to harden up the plywood. I think if nothing else it will make a unified front for soundwaves and even out whatever response the cabinet generates.

It's totally clear and has a slight gloss when dry. Pretty thin, like nectar thin as we say in healthcare. Thinner than paint or honey for sure.
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However Minwax has a product called 'Sanding Sealer' and it is used over hardwood floors in between the stain and the polycoat.
You are using it all wrong. Sanding sealer goes on the bare wood before the stain. It "seals" the pores so that the stain coat is more uniform in colour.
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Sorry, we are both almost right. It's to be used on bare wood when you aren't going to be staining, only top coating floors or cabinets with minwax fast drying polyurithane. Not to be used with stain at all.

Of course if you plan on using any product, always read the instructions. Also look both ways before crossing the streets and wear your seatbelts. Please keep medicines out of the reach of children. Friends don't let friends drive drunk. Be kind...rewind. He who smelt it, delt it.
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Simply, no. Read up on it in some woodworking literature or TV.
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Simply, no. Read up on it in some woodworking literature or TV.

Does it serve the same function as a the pre-stain wood conditioner?

http://www.minwax.com/products/wood_...onditioner.cfm
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Yes, it's the same thing.
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Sorry, I'm just reading what it says on the label. You can use it however you want, though. It's a free country.
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Sorry, I'm just reading what it says on the label. You can use it however you want, though. It's a free country.
No need to apologize, it's obvious Minwax has 2 different formulations for different applications, but they are essentially the same thing. I think I'll look at the price tags next time and buy whichever one's cheaper
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You are using it all wrong. Sanding sealer goes on the bare wood before the stain. It "seals" the pores so that the stain coat is more uniform in colour.

Sanding sealer "raises" the grain of the wood and facilitates sanding, whether it has been stained or not. It is the first coat of finish.

You are confusing it with so called "wood conditioners". They are not the same as sanding sealer.
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