more powerful Charlize equivalent

[Rafal]

Hi Folks,

In case I find that Charlize is not powerful enough, what would you say is the more powerful kit that has the same (or better sounding) performance. It needs to drive 6ohm, 90-96db speakers. I think something along the lines of 30 clean watts/ch would be enough.

Can you recommend something (hopefully something that can use the same power supply as Charlize)?

Thanks,

Rafal

[niiico]

Originally posted by Rafal
I think something along the lines of 30 clean watts/ch would be enough.

Can you recommend something (hopefully something that can use the same power supply as Charlize)?

Not with tripath chips. All the T-amp I know are following a linear power curve depending on the rail voltage.

Jan wrote in his forum:

For all models, you can get a good estimate of power per channel as:

- Max power = 0.45 * (Rail Voltge squared)/(speaker impedance)
- Power with 1% distortion up to around 80% of Max power
- Power with low distortion (<0.1%) up to around 60% of Max power

[soundcheck]

Perhaps you have a look at audiodigit.

http://www.audiodigit.com/?section=76

The 100W pieces are giving you plenty of headroom.
If you apply the 60% low distortion rule you'd be fine.

Though 24V powerrail is recommended.
Two batteries in lineas PS would be my choice.

Soundwise the kit should even outperform the 12V 2020

Cheers
Klaus

[Pano]

You can't get more power out of the Charlize power supply.

To get more power from a given speaker impedance, you need a higher voltage. So you'll want to go to an amp that runs on 24 volts or more.

[Rafal]

Originally posted by soundcheck
Perhaps you have a look at audiodigit.

http://www.audiodigit.com/?section=76

The 100W pieces are giving you plenty of headroom.
If you apply the 60% low distortion rule you'd be fine.

Though 24V powerrail is recommended.
Two batteries in lineas PS would be my choice.

Soundwise the kit should even outperform the 12V 2020

Cheers
Klaus

How ould something like that compate to IcD180 kit, sound wise?

[lousymusician]

Originally posted by Rafal

How ould something like that compate to IcD180 kit, sound wise?

Try this thread : UcD180ad Vs 41Hz Audio AMP5 (Tripath TA2022)

[soundcheck]

Originally posted by panomaniac
You can't get more power out of the Charlize power supply.

To get more power from a given speaker impedance, you need a higher voltage. So you'll want to go to an amp that runs on 24 volts or more.

If you'd have one battery fireing Charlize already. You just add another one! Lucky me!

[soundcheck]

Originally posted by Rafal



How ould something like that compate to IcD180 kit, sound wise?

They are all pretty close from sound perspective to sum above posted link up.

I regard the differential input of the UCD as one of the key differentiators, if you can make use of it.
The UCD needs also a higher supply Voltage!

I think the 4 channel module from Audiodigit, for people with seperate subs to be fired, would be a really interesting choice.

[rbrady]

Go to 41Hz.com and look at his collection of Tripath kits. Amp# 4 would be about 30watts and it includes a power supply--just add a transformer. Amps #1 and #5 are about 100watts of T-amp power.
Read through the forum area to get an idea of how they sound. I have ordered amp#4 but it hasn't arrived yet so I cant comment on the kit or the amps performance.
Best wishes
ron brady
41Hz.com