Lepai T-Amp with TA2020

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just got the t2020+..

i read the last 10 pages for at least 10 times already..

order the capacitors according to XtremeRevolution.
any recommendations for the op amp??

whats the differences between changing them and bypassing them?
if bypassing, is it bypassing 1 or both of them??
if changing, what is a good choice??

Hello

By doing the bypass I posted for the ta2020a+ you are disconnecting the input signal from the tone, volume control and two op amps.
You are essentially comming from the input then r36, r37,r35 ,r34 to coupling cap then r8, r10, r9, r11 to IC TA2020 pins 9, 10, 11, 13.
As you can see on the pic of my post I even removed the caps from the op amps circuit. That means op amps have no power and are just sitting there, not being feed and not connected.

I think you can and must use 2.2uf mkp instead of electrolytic 1.75uf,
I have had only used the 1.75uf because I don't have 2.2uf caps right now. If you want your lepai to be more like the tripath suggested circuit you can also replace the resitors on r37,r36, r35, r34, r8, r10, r9, r11 and them go to the inductors, output caps etc.

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Bellow I edited the tripath schem. The values in red are not confirmed and are based on what is printed on the TA2020a+ components.

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http://www.e-ele.net/DataSheet/TA2020.pdf
 
As you can see on the pic of my post I even removed the caps from the op amps circuit. That means op amps have no power and are just sitting there, not being feed and not connected.
This seems like a questionable statement. Removing the capacitors does not remove the power from the op amps.
Any Idea How to check whether the chip is still alive or not ? simple method will be fine.. Thanks
Confirm that the TA2020 chip is getting power, confirm it isn't in mute or sleep mode, inject an audio signal to the left then right inputs.
The inputs at the chip, not at the back of the unit.
 
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This seems like a questionable statement. Removing the capacitors does not remove the power from the op amps.

Hello
I'm just a noob here and i'm trying to find awsners to the questions concerning the TA2020A+. Questions that have been already asked many times but not answered . I think bypass =no signal + no caps=no power

That way I would appreciate if you could point out exactly were from is this power/signal comming from ?

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I think you can and must use 2.2uf mkp instead of electrolytic 1.75uf,
I have had only used the 1.75uf because I don't have 2.2uf caps right now. If you want your lepai to be more like the tripath suggested circuit you can also replace the resitors on r37,r36, r35, r34, r8, r10, r9, r11 and them go to the inductors, output caps etc.

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2.2 uF, really? That is what Tripath recommended?
Good to know. I put the original electrolytics back so I could close the box, but I retained your bypass. I will try to get some better caps on my next parts order.
Thanks.
 
Anybody knows how to add the OVERLOADB indicator? In the datasheet appears this:

Overload
The OVERLOADB pin is a 5V logic output. When low, it indicates that the level of the input signal has overloaded the amplifier resulting in increased distortion at the output. The OVERLOADB signal can be used to control a distortion indicator light or LED through a simple buffer circuit.

What kind of buffer circuit does it refer to?
 
2.2 uF, really? That is what Tripath recommended?
Good to know. I put the original electrolytics back so I could close the box, but I retained your bypass. I will try to get some better caps on my next parts order.
Thanks.

Yes, 2.2uf.
I purchased mundorf 2.2uf mcaps 400v 3% that I hope to be delivered sometime during next week along with tk2050 boards.

Replying to your previous post I think the TA2020A signal goes to vol> op amp1>tone controls > op amp2 > ta2020 pins 9, 10, 12 ,12. From there the schematic is pretty much the same on all the versions.

http://www.e-ele.net/DataSheet/TA2020.pdf

Good luck to all of us
 
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Anybody knows how to add the OVERLOADB indicator? In the datasheet appears this:

Overload
The OVERLOADB pin is a 5V logic output. When low, it indicates that the level of the input signal has overloaded the amplifier resulting in increased distortion at the output. The OVERLOADB signal can be used to control a distortion indicator light or LED through a simple buffer circuit.

What kind of buffer circuit does it refer to?

A transistor as a buffer.
But I think a good LED will be able to drive directly:
+5V --->------[5k ohm]----->------[LED]---->----OVERLOADB
 
Hello
I'm just a noob here and i'm trying to find awsners to the questions concerning the TA2020A+. Questions that have been already asked many times but not answered . I think bypass =no signal + no caps=no power

That way I would appreciate if you could point out exactly were from is this power/signal comming from ?
Running a jumper wire from the input caps to the TA2020 bypasses the volume control, op amps, and tone control. And so there is no audio signal for the op amps to act upon. But removing the caps still leaves power supply voltage to the op amps - there is power being consumed by the op amps. Cutting the traces for pins 4 & 8 of the op amps removes all power.
 
Any Idea How to check whether the chip is still alive or not ? simple method will be fine.. Thanks

This is what happened to me... there was a short circuit after the op-amp modification .. there after the amp stop responding ..While checking the amp IC using multi-meter there was another elctric shortage between ic pins..After all this drama, the blue LED started to dim :confused:..After inspection we decided there is a electrical short inside the circuit.. (standby current is way over 1 AMP)..now waiting for new ta2020..

What do you think?? your ideas highly appreciated..
 
Running a jumper wire from the input caps to the TA2020 bypasses the volume control, op amps, and tone control. And so there is no audio signal for the op amps to act upon. But removing the caps still leaves power supply voltage to the op amps - there is power being consumed by the op amps. Cutting the traces for pins 4 & 8 of the op amps removes all power.

You are right. But I might unsolder op amps and preserve the pcb for future mods, who knows.

Thank you for the awsner.
 
Hello

By doing the bypass I posted for the ta2020a+ you are disconnecting the input signal from the tone, volume control and two op amps.
You are essentially comming from the input then r36, r37,r35 ,r34 to coupling cap then r8, r10, r9, r11 to IC TA2020 pins 9, 10, 11, 13.
As you can see on the pic of my post I even removed the caps from the op amps circuit. That means op amps have no power and are just sitting there, not being feed and not connected.

I think you can and must use 2.2uf mkp instead of electrolytic 1.75uf,
I have had only used the 1.75uf because I don't have 2.2uf caps right now. If you want your lepai to be more like the tripath suggested circuit you can also replace the resitors on r37,r36, r35, r34, r8, r10, r9, r11 and them go to the inductors, output caps etc.

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as per what u mention in the previous post, are the polarity of c20 and c21 printed wrongly?? so i should go opposite when putting in new caps for c20 and c21??

i tried to change a 2.2uf cap on c20 and c21 following the polarity of the printings.. indeed it sounds better and i notice higher clarity of the output..
but on the highs, i got distortion on one side of the speakers..

i change back the 1.75 uf caps and the distortion disappear..
 
as per what u mention in the previous post, are the polarity of c20 and c21 printed wrongly?? so i should go opposite when putting in new caps for c20 and c21??

i tried to change a 2.2uf cap on c20 and c21 following the polarity of the printings.. indeed it sounds better and i notice higher clarity of the output..
but on the highs, i got distortion on one side of the speakers..

i change back the 1.75 uf caps and the distortion disappear..

Yes, you should connect it to the positive on the PCB for the best using bipolar 2.2uf MPK's .

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You got distortion even at low volume ? If it happens only when you go up with the power that may be your speaker wires that are fault.



I replaced inductors and that was the best mod so far, improved all aspects of the SQ. I am addicted to this thing cause I can't wait to give it another try.
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