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Old 22nd September 2006, 11:38 AM   #1
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While waiting for my AMP6 to arrive, I've just read that a simplied version of the AMP6 kit will soon be available:

http://www.41hz.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=688

The most noticeable difference (at least for me) betwen
these two kits is that the new basic kits come with prewound
inductors instead of requiring the builder to wind
toroidal inductors.

A total newbie question:
Any guesses on the merits of the new inductors vs
the old?

Cheers,
Dennis
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Old 22nd September 2006, 07:39 PM   #2
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Yes, your fingers won't ache so much!

I guess that they are the same except they have already been wound for you!
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Old 23rd September 2006, 02:13 AM   #3
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Originally posted by Dennis Hui
While waiting for my AMP6 to arrive, I've just read that a simplied version of the AMP6 kit will soon be available:

http://www.41hz.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=688

The most noticeable difference (at least for me) betwen
these two kits is that the new basic kits come with prewound
inductors instead of requiring the builder to wind
toroidal inductors.

A total newbie question:
Any guesses on the merits of the new inductors vs
the old?

Cheers,
Dennis
I am also a total newbie, does this require any soldering?, looks to me like put in the case and connect the wires to outside...

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Old 23rd September 2006, 03:56 AM   #4
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I am also a total newbie, does this require any soldering?, looks to me like put in the case and connect the wires to outside...

gychang
Yes, soldering required. Its still a kit like original amp6 (the $34 price indicates that). It looks like it might be a little easier to put together than the original amp6. Not having to wind your own inductors will save some time.
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Old 23rd September 2006, 12:22 PM   #5
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Yes, your fingers won't ache so much!

I guess that they are the same except they have already been wound for you!
That will certainly makes it easier to build.

The amp6 basic kit lacks the LED status displays. More
importantly, it does not have an onboard regulated
power supply. This should make it a bit easier to experiemnt
with the power supply.

Too bad I hadn't heard about the amp6 basic when I ordered
my two amp6 kits.

Cheers,
Dennis
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Old 23rd September 2006, 01:06 PM   #6
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That will certainly makes it easier to build.

The amp6 basic kit lacks the LED status displays. More
importantly, it does not have an onboard regulated
power supply. This should make it a bit easier to experiemnt
with the power supply.

Too bad I hadn't heard about the amp6 basic when I ordered
my two amp6 kits.

Cheers,
Dennis
Winding the toroids is loads of fun

Based on the pictures shown at 41hz forum,the inductors are not the same as the ones with AMP6.So,the sound can be better or worst,I would say it's the same...

You could just jumper the inboard power supply of AMP6,if you want to experiment with different power supplys.Then you are left with few extra bits like rectifier bridge,nice regulator chip,big 10.000uf cap etc.You can also leave out the LED:s if you want.

THE Basic model has smaller PCB which is good improvement,if all those "extra" bits in AMP6 are not needed.

I have AMP6 with the 10.000uf cap (inboard power supply jumpered).
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Old 23rd September 2006, 01:21 PM   #7
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When talking about winding toroids - after "enjoying" the manual procedure with my AMP6, I contracted a local company here to do the job for our group buy TK2050 amp (similar to AMP4). They wound 48 toroids for 23 USD total and delivered one day after I gave them the cores
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Old 23rd September 2006, 01:35 PM   #8
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I was almost going to say that people are loosing the enjoyment of DIY even on the DIY foorum.But thinking of it better,I didn't want to make my own PCB in the first place anyway so I bought a kit...

I can understand why some diyers find the toroids difficult to wind.Looking at my toroids,they could be a bit more tighter,but now the sound has my signature on it
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Old 23rd September 2006, 02:24 PM   #9
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Thanks for all the comments.

The AMP6 kit will be something new for me since I've
never dealt with SMD parts before. As for the
winding of the inductors...I bought two kits, so I
should get better by the time I build the second one.

Cheers,
Dennis
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Old 24th September 2006, 04:47 AM   #10
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Thanks for all the comments.

The AMP6 kit will be something new for me since I've
never dealt with SMD parts before. As for the
winding of the inductors...I bought two kits, so I
should get better by the time I build the second one.

Cheers,
Dennis
How is the volume control (potentiometer) installed as a integreated amp?

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