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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Dona paula, Goa
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For info
Improve EMC In Class D Amplifier Applications http://www.elecdesign.com/Articles/I...rticleID=12004 Gajanan Phadte |
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Paris
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Well, interesting. Thanks for the link.
A question that I have is... it is true that typical audio analyzers provide false THD and noise results with Class-D amplifiers (I am not talking about that rubbish filterless ones, but of half-bridge modules, such as ZapPulse, Hypex, Coldamp, Tripath...)? Perhaps real designers such as Lars, Bruno or Sergio can tell us how do they test their amplifiers' THD. The question is: is it really necessary to use a AES filter or similar, or on the other hand standard AP, HP8903, etc system can provide reliable measurements (with only their standard 30KHz filtering, for example)? |
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Audio Precision, makers of the industry standard audio analyzers, have a "switching amp" passive low pass filter, the AUX-0025. I just had a friend at a major amplifier company run 4 Tripath amps thru tests on an AP. He used the filter for all measurements, as one should for class-d amp. The results will be on my website in a few days.
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: The Lab
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My experience is, that for safety you should always use the AES 'brickwall' filter. If you dont you may or may not get
faulty results on your measurements. In my own setup, which is a ESI Juli@ soundcard, and software from www.ymec.com , the systems seems to be immune to the switching residues, even if they are several Volts. Meaning the THD results are exactly the same with and without the AES 17 filter. I suspsct this is owing to the fact that the software uses FFT to dig out harmonics, and so the out of sync switching residue, will not appear on the measurement. If the measurement was THD+N, i expect the result would be somewhat different...... In any case i would recommend using the AES filter. Preferably passive, or if active, populated with OPA627 opams. This is the only opamp i have found with low enough THD results. (Despite what the datasheet of many other opamps promise).
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Helsingborg, southern sweden
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Lars Clausen
A PC soundcard has a A/D converter on the input so I suspect that it also has a very steep low pass filter before this A/D converter. I have also seen that soundcards are unaffected by switching residuals.
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