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Join Date: Oct 2003
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Using the (rather radical..) new measurement methods as proposed by Per Anders, i hereby post the first measurements of THD on the 700XE.
I guess the serious message in this result is that pre filter NFB can give as good THD measurement as post filter NFB. Take a look below
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Did I? Forgot it already
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Hi Lars
Excellent THD results, and what, there for a pre filter NFB design!!! As peranders asked, "How does it sound then ..." Lars, the graph only goes to 10K, what's the THD from 10K to 20K?
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Hi KL
Well the THD between 10 and 20 kHz is usually eaten up by the 24 kHz 'brick wall' filter. For example if you take a 3rd harmonic THD of 10 kHz, the harmonic will be at 30 kHz, and simply vanishes in the AES filter.
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Just curious - what kind of load was used and what output power was the test done at?
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This is 2 W rms in 8 Ohms
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Lars, can you show us THD/Power plots for 200Hz, 1KHz, 6KHz? Do you know about how much the loop gain in your amp? What is the (rather radical..) new measurement methods, really?
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Join Date: Oct 2003
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IVX: Kind of a joke between me and Per Anders.
From another thread. ![]() And please note, the posted THD data are real, but NOT official data release.. I just posted the best looking results i could get (under the most beneficial op conditions .. but not totally useless anyway). ![]() Of course a more parametric result will be released later on.
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This is the problem I have found with measurements, if not measured with a true inductive load then your not getting real world results. If you can get below 0.01 with a real speaker including crossover, then you have something.
Why does the brick wall have to be at 24k Hz, can't that point be higher and still not have a great deal of noise? And if the noise is above 20K why do we worry about it so much, or why is it even audible? These are honest questions here. The best switch mode amp I have ever heard was noisier than most, but during music levels you didn't even notice the noise. |
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