Nuuks T-amp article on TNT out now

Mick_F · 7th October 2005, 08:50 PM

Waiting has an end.....

click *here*

Mick

And now I am going to read it......

blip1882 · 7th October 2005, 09:01 PM

Tremendous! I've been looking forward to this article.

(reading)

Hey that's a great little shoot-out. Only thing I wanted to see more of was concrete comparison to other amps he has built/worked with (GainClone etc.). A good clear read though that has definitely made me wonder if the Charlize should be the amp for my new office system.

Mick_F · 7th October 2005, 09:14 PM

....... indeed, holographic and realistic. Thats what I thought too.

Nuuk · 7th October 2005, 09:32 PM

I did intend to do more of a comparison with the GC but I was just too knackered! I almost got to the stage where I never wanted to plug and unplug leads into amps ever again!

Apart from housing all the amps, I did quite a lot of work restructuring my hi-fi to make it more amenable to reviewing other equipment. It's been a couple of months of near full-time tinkering. I'm trying to take a break from it at present and will then concentrate more on a class-T/GC comparsion!

blip1882 · 7th October 2005, 09:41 PM

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Originally posted by Nuuk
I did intend to do more of a comparison with the GC but I was just too knackered! I almost got to the stage where I never wanted to plug and unplug leads into amps ever again!

Now that's something I can certainly understand... I'm always amazed that people can find the time to do these kinds of large scale reviews. But I really appreciate it when they do! Thanks!

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Apart from housing all the amps, I did quite a lot of work restructuring my hi-fi to make it more amenable to reviewing other equipment. It's been a couple of months of near full-time tinkering. I'm trying to take a break from it at present and will then concentrate more on a class-T/GC comparsion!

Awesome! I look forward to seeing it.

KT · 7th October 2005, 09:46 PM

Awesome!

I was right about the Charlize... I had a feeling it was the one Nick was liking.

But the Autoconstruire is comparable and one of the top choices, too, which is great because it's great to have choices.

Plus I imagine the Autoconstruire is easier to mod and upgrade since it uses some thru hole parts.

I purchased the Charlize a few months ago, btw, but haven't gotten around to boxing it up. After hearing what Nick has to say (and Tiangus in conversation), I'm looking forward to that day when it's up and running.

Call me nostalgic or whatever, but somehow I feel good that the Gainclones still have an edge over all these great affordable little T-amps. How will the GC do against some of the higher up UCD and Icepower amps, though? Maybe that's Nick's next project? If the UCDs surpass the GCs in overall enjoyment, I'm definitely getting on that train.

Again, I found the Gaincard to sound much more musical with a good tube pre and I suspect it will kick the performance of the T-amps up a notch, too. If anyone tries it out, we'd all love to hear your impressions.

Thanks for doing the shootout, Nick.

Best,
KT

Bgt · 7th October 2005, 09:51 PM

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Originally posted by KT
Awesome!

I I feel good that the Gainclones still have an edge over all these great affordable little T-amps.KT

I absolutely don't understand you guys to test such a tiny amp. against the gainclones? What's the use of this????????????????Use an AMP1B or an AMP2!!! These can handle the GC's.

Nuuk · 7th October 2005, 09:59 PM

KT - happy to help! You may be interested to know that DiyParadise are working on a valve pre-amp to go with the Monica2 DAC and Charlize!

Bgt - I know where you are coming from but look at it this way. The class-T amps and GC's are options at the (very) affordable end of the market. Therefore, it is understandable that people want to know which sounds better. I do agree that a GC with a beefy PSU is more compatable to the UCD modules etc but I have run a GC at 12 volts too and may be that is the right way to comapre them both!

KT · 7th October 2005, 10:05 PM

Nick,

I notice that the Charlize pictured in the review has the standard coils. Is this the one you tested?

Yeo now offers them with aircore coils (but you can still buy the amp with standard coils if you prefer).

KT

Bgt · 7th October 2005, 10:21 PM

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Originally posted by Nuuk
I do agree that a GC with a beefy PSU is more compatable to the UCD modules etc but I have run a GC at 12 volts too and may be that is the right way to comapre them both!

Please...........a power amp. at 12 Volts....what do you expect from this??????????? Its like a toy, carradio.

7th October 2005, 08:50 PM	#1
Mick_F diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cologne	Nuuks T-amp article on TNT out now Waiting has an end..... click here Mick And now I am going to read it......

7th October 2005, 09:32 PM	#4
Nuuk diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Somerset, SW England	I did intend to do more of a comparison with the GC but I was just too knackered! I almost got to the stage where I never wanted to plug and unplug leads into amps ever again! Apart from housing all the amps, I did quite a lot of work restructuring my hi-fi to make it more amenable to reviewing other equipment. It's been a couple of months of near full-time tinkering. I'm trying to take a break from it at present and will then concentrate more on a class-T/GC comparsion! __________________ The truth need not be veiled, for it veils itself from the eyes of the ignorant.

7th October 2005, 09:59 PM	#8
Nuuk diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Somerset, SW England	KT - happy to help! You may be interested to know that DiyParadise are working on a valve pre-amp to go with the Monica2 DAC and Charlize! Bgt - I know where you are coming from but look at it this way. The class-T amps and GC's are options at the (very) affordable end of the market. Therefore, it is understandable that people want to know which sounds better. I do agree that a GC with a beefy PSU is more compatable to the UCD modules etc but I have run a GC at 12 volts too and may be that is the right way to comapre them both! __________________ The truth need not be veiled, for it veils itself from the eyes of the ignorant.

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blip1882 diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2005	Tremendous! I've been looking forward to this article. (reading) Hey that's a great little shoot-out. Only thing I wanted to see more of was concrete comparison to other amps he has built/worked with (GainClone etc.). A good clear read though that has definitely made me wonder if the Charlize should be the amp for my new office system.

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Mick_F diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cologne	....... indeed, holographic and realistic. Thats what I thought too.

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KT diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: USA	Awesome! I was right about the Charlize... I had a feeling it was the one Nick was liking. But the Autoconstruire is comparable and one of the top choices, too, which is great because it's great to have choices. Plus I imagine the Autoconstruire is easier to mod and upgrade since it uses some thru hole parts. I purchased the Charlize a few months ago, btw, but haven't gotten around to boxing it up. After hearing what Nick has to say (and Tiangus in conversation), I'm looking forward to that day when it's up and running. Call me nostalgic or whatever, but somehow I feel good that the Gainclones still have an edge over all these great affordable little T-amps. How will the GC do against some of the higher up UCD and Icepower amps, though? Maybe that's Nick's next project? If the UCDs surpass the GCs in overall enjoyment, I'm definitely getting on that train. Again, I found the Gaincard to sound much more musical with a good tube pre and I suspect it will kick the performance of the T-amps up a notch, too. If anyone tries it out, we'd all love to hear your impressions. Thanks for doing the shootout, Nick. Best, KT

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KT diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: USA	Nick, I notice that the Charlize pictured in the review has the standard coils. Is this the one you tested? Yeo now offers them with aircore coils (but you can still buy the amp with standard coils if you prefer). KT

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