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#521 |
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: North American Continent
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Here are some more thoughts about the phase shifter idea. Use 5v VDD instead of the 15v shown in the diagram, as the circuit is shown, that voltage seemed to work. I tested out the circuit on the LTspice simulator. On the Yahoo Group pertaining to that simulator, I obtained the CD4000 CMOS library from the files section. I am not good with computers, so that says a lot for the user-friendliness of LTspice.
In my simulation, I also made the phase shift capacitor 100pF, and varied the resistor from a few hundred ohms for a maximum phase shift of about 180 degrees to 270k for the minimum of about 0 degrees. I used a square wave with a period of 40 microseconds because I hope to get the zero voltage switcher to use resonant capacitors in the range of 0.1uF on each output MOSFET totem pole. I really do not know if I can get it to work that way, but I expect a quiet running supply with little consideration needed for parts layout to be the result if successful. I would hope it to have usability in powering a class D amp. Yet, one caution about this ZVS approach which uses relatively large resonant capacitors is that if the circuit does not stay in ZVS mode, the MOSFETs may overheat from hard-switching against the capacitors, and the low EMI sought will disappear. I may try to use phase modulation in a class D amp if I get around to it. This type of phase shifter may work in conjunction with a class D pulse width modulator to drive the output MOSFET totem poles out of phase, but, it really seems like a lot of work for an amp. A phase-modulated amp may also require a carrier-based approach. At least the frequency would need to be fairly constant, I'd say. I tend to think classd4sure was on the right track in regard to a good amp design along the lines of a UcD. Many readers are aware that Texas Instruments has a line of low-power phase shift modulated class D chips, but alas, they are only available in surface mount. I think for that reason, they are out of the question for use in any class D amp to be potentially considered a circuit design reference. I would not mind if a moderator placed my posts in this thread into a new one titled "Phase Shift Modulation" or something along those lines.
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Ahh, it finally worked when I added a capacitor from the phase shift one to the power negative to conserve the original charge and to prevent it from shunting to the supply rails. One of the reasons it did better now is that I made it 50% larger than the phase shift cap instead of the wrong way I had tried it--50% smaller. Now it should not depend on the power supply. So if the phsh cap is 220 pF, the shunt cap value becomes 330pF. If the phsh cap is 100pF, the shunt cap becomes 150pF. The simulator may have a quirk when certain combinations are selected. So I had good test results with the 220/330 pair.
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Willmar, Minnesota
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Hi,
I've been watching this forum and have decided that I would like to make a UcD clone. Upon successfully simulating the amplifier I decided that I would construct a PCB. The board is stuffed but the circuit fails to oscillate. I've tried several things but the circuit still fails to oscillate. I must admit that I'm no controls expert. My main objective with this project is to learn about self oscillating amplifiers. It doesn't matter if all I can get with my board layout is 5 watts I just want to see it working and if possible I would like to do that while keeping things as simple as possible. Thanks, Randy Knutson Mankato MN |
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#524 |
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Willmar, Minnesota
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Here is the schematic
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#525 |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Willmar, Minnesota
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The schematic exceeded the size limit to here is the power supply portion.
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#526 |
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Willmar, Minnesota
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Here is my board file
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#527 |
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Join Date: Jan 2002
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Hi Randy,
One thing I think it needs is power to the upper driver circuit before the bootstrapping takes over. To ease that requirement, you may wish to increase the value of R10, and probably R16 as well, by a considerable amount. Then a resistor connected from the upper power rail to the positive power node of the upper driver can dissipate less power.
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Yahoo, USA
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Put a 12 volt Zener across C6 and connect a 100k from its cathode to Vdd. Use the Vee connection to R2 as an enable switch (lift to disable). Apply power and wait about 10 seconds for the bootstrap supply across C6 to come up, then reconnect R2 to Vee. This is a kludge only good for testing, but it should get the amp to start up. Good luck -- analogspiceman |
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#529 |
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Hi Randy,
You should do what I did and use a protoboard to get it working first, save you the cost of PCB's that don't work, and you can experiment far more simply. It can and will work on a protoboard. Subwo1's suggestions are on target, but aren't the complete solution, which you'll find within and throughout this thread, since you said you wanted to learn I'll leave it at that and let you read it, but as a hint it has to do with a zener and another resistor from someplace to the negative power rail. Keep us posted with your progress. Regards Chris |
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Join Date: Sep 2004
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Regards -- analogspiceman |
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