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Old 17th June 2015, 04:03 PM   #1
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Thumbs up First Timer. Anything better than TPA3116?

Hello all! Im new to the DIY amplifier world.

I'm looking to build my first amp. My priority above all is sound quality.

I've read that T-amps sound better than gainclones, and now the TPA3110/TPA3116 sound better than T-Amps.

Is there anything better now than the TPA3110/TPA3116, or are they still king?
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Old 17th June 2015, 04:11 PM   #2
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They pretty much are at the top of the game still with the appropriate modifications. Although I am having lots of success with a TDA7482 (see new thread). New amps will have built in DSP EQ and XO capability for active speakers.

Although I have heard that a well modified 3886 still sounds better than a 3116.
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Old 17th June 2015, 10:41 PM   #3
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Because nothing is good at a stock setup? Seems like that all those engineers are to stoopit to lay out a circuit properly.. -.-
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Old 18th June 2015, 08:46 PM   #4
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Well...I like the board made in Holland by Accusafe. It utilizes the MAXIM 9744 chip. 20 watts at 12v (10 good ones). Integrated volume control on chip so using a single gang 10K linear pot you get clear sound without a pot in signal chain...Two stage adjustable gain by a solder gap. 4/8 Ohm compatable. Sounds better to me than any T-amp (2024, 2020, 2050, or the Sure 3110 I have owned/modded. This board needs NO mods as it already uses good quality parts and is not made in China. Nothing like good European engineering and manufacturing ; ). Additional capacitance can be added if need be. What is not to like? It is used by many for the "Boominator" et. al. builds in Euroland. I use it as my only amp in my tiny sailboat from solar power/battery and don't feel the need to look further. Kistradio en Kratradio Specialist - Modules - Versterkers - MaxAmp 12V Class-D versterker met JST-PH connector . Just box it up and be done with it. YMMV...
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Old 18th June 2015, 09:14 PM   #5
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MAX9744 20W Stereo Class D Speaker Amplifier with Volume Control - Maxim
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Old 20th June 2015, 02:29 PM   #6
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Thanks for the suggestion T-Head! Although honestly I do want to try the TPA3116 to see what the hype is about lol.

Although, maybe you could explain to me how you create a battery power supply for these amplifiers? According to Bottlehead's website, a battery powered Class-D amp may sound better than a Class D amp powered by an AC-DC power supply. I'd like to give a battery powered class D amo a try

What is the recommendation for the best TPA3116 based Board? I see that the YJ Blue/black is highly regarded, but if there is anything better available I'd like to know.
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Old 20th June 2015, 03:50 PM   #7
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As for a battery supply, the easiest is simply a SLA (Sealed Lead-Acid) battery connected to the board. You will also need a charger to recharge the battery. I used this for months but my MAXAMP 20 is now connected to my house battery on my boat and is recharged with a 100 watt solar panel and PWM controller. I would try the SLA first and if you like it you can get fancier with a case, and battery protection circuit like the one sold by Accusafe:
Kistradio en Kratradio Specialist - Accu Beveiliging - AccuSafe V3,5 Geassembleerd

This board will automate the charging cycle and keep the battery from to deep a discharge. In the end it depends on your choices as with all things DIY.

As for the TPA 3116 boards I will defer to the long thread here: TPA3116D2 Amp I have no experience with the boards as I am happy with my MAXAMP 20. If you need more wattage I have been looking at the TPA 3132 based stAMP boards. Tiny and considered goog-sounding. Hand assembled in the UK with quality parts and designed by Sheldon, a DIYaudio member. Some more really small amps Mostly, I am through trying to upgrade poorly designed and implemented chinese products...you often get what you pay for and I would like to support quality. YMMV
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Old 20th June 2015, 03:53 PM   #8
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What is the recommendation for the best TPA3116 based Board? I see that the YJ Blue/black is highly regarded, but if there is anything better available I'd like to know.
DUG and gmarsh (check out the group buy section) TPA3116 implementations are solid
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Old 23rd June 2015, 09:21 PM   #10
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t-head, you stuck a cord in my soul for supporting businesses that are morally correct. Its been a value of mine to buy only quality products from quality businesses (I buy all organic, u.s.a if possible, ect).

I ended up buying a Bottlehead Quicksand after learning that it uses a TPA chip (TPA3122).

I'm actually extremely excited for this because it takes care of a few of my personal audio biases
1. Battery powered (no cleaner source of power!)
2. Single ended
3. Support a good business/ american companies (TI; Bottlehead)
4. Lets me try out the TPA bandwagon
5. Supplies only 4 watts @ 8Ohms

You're probably puzzled by #5. You see, I've been wanting to try a SET amplifier for a long, long time though. Only thing that has stopped me is if 3-4W would be enough. This is a cheap inexpensive way to see if that much power is enough for my listening style.

Also ordered a Fostex FF85wk. I can't wait to try everything out!
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