digital controlled PWM amplifiers

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well, i want hear direct-digtal...but i found not much about that, especially about > how does it sound ? < -- but seems, nobody knows...or want to tell :confused:

so i decided, to try myself...
and made a test: i program pcm -> pwm converter, to see, how good this could be;
was some work on a ARM cpu and with standard test, sine wave, looks not bad;
see att. pic
for this, i want a simple setup first - and looked for "ready" amps, but nothing cheap to find;
next is, to build an amp ...i decided for a test the STAxx chips from STM;
at the moment first layout is almost finished, 100x100mm board...see pic.
it has:
- the digital FFX amp , 2 x20W
- supply reg.
- system controller (ARM F0) for volume (filter etc.), IR-remote , LCD display etc.
- spdif opt + cinch in
- usb in
first i will try without biquad filters and much processing, just volume control...
 

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Right now, I use it with analogue input. It's ok but nothing special. The magic happens with digital input. It's very detailed and easy to decifer the music. Some Will call it cold and analytical, but for me I relax more, because I don't have to concentrate to hear details in the music. In dual amp mode, there is plenty of headroom, and rock solid low end. Just don't push it, then it will sound very harsh.
 
I don't think that is true.

Think whatever you want. Facts are facts. And the fact of the matter is that in the midrange and treble the source impedance of the XR55 is basically equivalent to a SET amp, with the attendant FR errors in those bands when the amp is asked to drive a non-resistant load. The midbass and down is far superior to a SET or other antique tube amp.

Now, they're fine for active speakers, so long as the interaction of each driver and amp channel is measured for crossover design.

You have one. (Mine is long gone, for the reasons stated above.) Take measurements of a loudspeaker driven by it, and then swap out the amp for a known good solid state amp with low output impedance and flat FR. Or one of the known good Class D technologies, such as Icepower ASX2 or Hypex UcD/Ncore.
 
Think whatever you want. Facts are facts. And the fact of the matter is that in the midrange and treble the source impedance of the XR55 is basically equivalent to a SET amp, with the attendant FR errors in those bands when the amp is asked to drive a non-resistant load. The midbass and down is far superior to a SET or other antique tube amp.

Now, they're fine for active speakers, so long as the interaction of each driver and amp channel is measured for crossover design.

You have one. (Mine is long gone, for the reasons stated above.) Take measurements of a loudspeaker driven by it, and then swap out the amp for a known good solid state amp with low output impedance and flat FR. Or one of the known good Class D technologies, such as Icepower ASX2 or Hypex UcD/Ncore.

It's a sonic nature I have heard on every equibit amplifier I have heard (not only SA-XR55 but also SA-XR50 MiniAMP and Tact Millenium Mk III), that's why I don't think it's because of any frequency irregularities. I only use it in an active setup and I finetune freq and crossover with measurement mic. (I have a MiniDSP)
 
Pallas: Do you you recommend DAC + analogue input Class D over digital input Class D (just like Bruno Putzey)?

Digital *input* is one thing - it doesn't really matter if you have a separate DAC or a DAC built-in in the amp (apart from the fact that DACs tend to get obsolete quicker than amps), but analog class D vs. digital control/feedback class D is another matter altogether. Digital feedback is really, really tricky to get right.
 
It's not where the DAC is places I'm after. I know about that part.

It's the digital controlled class D vs analogue controlled class D I'm hunting.
In a Panasonic I would expect they know what they are doing! At least they share some of the same footprint as the "original" Tact Millenium.

Overall I don't think differences in well made amplifiers really matter (regardless of classes), but I do like what equibit amplifiers do when it comes to pin out details from the digital signal.
 
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