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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: CA
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Can anyone point me to a resource where I can learn about designing and building a linear power supply for Class-D amps?
I've seen lots of photos of amps with toroidal transformers and banks and banks of electrolytic caps. I understand you need both + and - rails.... I know little else. Where did you guys learn to make your power supplies? |
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Firstly you need to define your requirements.
Voltage output required. (And not all amps need a - and + supply, particularly Class D). Current required. That will depend on the max power output of the amp mainly, and that would be used as a basis of calculation. Lots of caps. Not necessarily. A lot of that thinking is "fashionable" but can bring its own problems. What you really need to know is how much ripple is acceptable and use that to help decide. If the supply need to be super stable and/or totally ripple free then a regulator of some sort is required is required.
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: San Antonio
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Whether or not a bipolar + & - supply is needed depends on the circuit to be powered. Just like there are single-supply op amp circuits and dual-supply op amp circuits.
If you don't have any books handy (virtually all semiconductor device and general electronics texts will have some ps coverage), look for online tutorials and manufacturers' web sites. Makers of transformers, diodes, and linear regulators will usually have application notes that teach design procedures. Here's but a small sampling: Power Supply Design Basics Understanding Linear Power Supply Operation ESP's Linear Power Supply Design UNLV's Linear Power Supply Design
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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Thanks. I have an older (Radio Shack) book on power supplies. I know the general drill for a linear PS: transformer, rectifier (full or half-wave rectified) some filter caps + resistors to reduce ripple.
The power supplies I've seen posted in here (in the Class D Amp Photo Gallery for example) show a lot more caps then I am used to seeing ... on a tube amp power supply for example that may only have three large capacitors. I should have said I intend this for driving a Sure amplifier board. Now that I look closely though, they don't require a bipolar PS.... Does anyone have a schematic they can point to that uses lots of fashionable caps?
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: San Antonio
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You don't really need a different schematic, I don't believe. The basic thought behind the cap grouping is that rather than sourcing a single large cap, say 100000uF, instead ten 10000uF or twenty 4700uF are used. The parallel grouping adds the capacitance while reducing the total ESR and ESL. The layout becomes more important than the schematic in optimizing the function.
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Join Date: Dec 2010
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Quote:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lyT-ij3grU...sing+LM338.jpg You don't have to use one 10 000 uF cap. You can use 10 x 1000 uF or more. lm338 needs heatsink. |
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: CA
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Thanks. And I learned about ESL and ESR today as well. I'm guessing the power supplies I've seen where there are a lot of smaller electrolytics were for switching power supplies as I don't see the impact ESL and ESR might have on a linear power supply.
The LM338 looks to be the more or less standard PS I'm used to. |
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