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aarvin2 17th January 2013 10:34 AM

The most revealing, unforgiving and detailed class-T amplifier on the market ?
 
Hi guys, I am asking this to people who have had experiences with class-T amps.

Which brand and model according to you has the most revealing, brutally honest and detailed nature ?

I am actually looking for T-amps for studio applications and would love to have an amp which produces a very honest representation of a mix.

Something which sounds great with a great mix but which blatantly reveals the flaws of a bad mix.

Thanks in advance!! :)

hoka 17th January 2013 11:29 AM

Return of the King!

nuf said!

TheShaman 17th January 2013 05:26 PM

I would definitely go with Hypex products for studio use.
If you insist on using Class-T (i.e. Tripath), I'd go with this one:
Tristan TA3020 Amplifier-Maedos

Bare 18th January 2013 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by hoka (Post 3329804)

Yeah! if you have Cloth ears. Give it up.
IF serious about a Tripath based Amp?? First find a "genuine" NOS Tripath chip ...Many/most are fakes.
Then ..Build.. your own amp based on the published Tripath Circuit.
Bozo copies are surprisingly inferior to the real thing.

cotdt 18th January 2013 01:50 AM

For studio use, go with Hypex. Tripath amps can sound ultra-detailed but that's not the same as accuracy. The DAC makes a bigger difference in regards to resolution, and I would look into that first. With the more revealing DACs, the Tripath amps just have way too much emphasis on the treble. These amps actually sound better with less revealing sources.

aarvin2 18th January 2013 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by cotdt (Post 3330855)
Tripath amps can sound ultra-detailed but that's not the same as accuracy. The DAC makes a bigger difference in regards to resolution, and I would look into that first.

HI Cotdt :) thanks for your input but what is the difference between detailed and accuracy ? Are those not supposed to work hand in hand to offer the truest representation of the sound source ?? Are you also implying that Tripaths are not accurate ? and if so why ?

For the DAC I have been trying to find differences between the Yulong D100 and the Lavry DA11(which I own) ... on paper how could I ever know which one is better ?

Thanks in advance :)

cotdt 18th January 2013 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by aarvin2 (Post 3330858)
HI Cotdt :) thanks for your input but what is the difference between detailed and accuracy ? Are those not supposed to work hand in hand to offer the truest representation of the sound source ?? Are you also implying that Tripaths are not accurate ? and if so why ?

For the DAC I have been trying to find differences between the Yulong D100 and the Lavry DA11(which I own) ... on paper how could I ever know which one is better ?

Thanks in advance :)

T-amps (out of a good DAC) sound very detailed because there is more emphasis on the treble. This is not the same as accuracy, because in real life voices are not supposed to sound so metallic. Whereas a Hypex amp sounds much more similar to my linear solid state amps. They are more neutral.

I would highly recommend you make your own DAC, as they are cheaper and are state of the art. The power supply is very important, and the output stage is very important. I like the Twisted Pear offerings.

Pano 18th January 2013 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by cotdt (Post 3330875)
T-amps (out of a good DAC) sound very detailed because there is more emphasis on the treble.

This is news to me and I've been using them for almost 10 years. Maybe you've had output filter or power supply problems?

cotdt 18th January 2013 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Pano (Post 3330946)
This is news to me and I've been using them for almost 10 years. Maybe you've had output filter or power supply problems?

I have the 41Hz amps. The frequency response measures flat and distortion low, so it seems to be working as it should. But subjectively, there is a treble emphasis and it sounds like notes are not decaying properly, giving a thin sound. The amp is too bright and sibilant to listen to an extended period of time. It might be that I am young, or that my Twisted Pear DAC is highly revealing, but I find the T-amp to not be accurate.

By comparison, the Hypex sounds more full, with proper decay of notes. It sounds like my linear amps. The details are all there but not emphasized like the T-amps.

aarvin2 18th January 2013 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by cotdt (Post 3330958)
The amp is too bright and sibilant to listen to an extended period of time. It might be that I am young, or that my Twisted Pear DAC is highly revealing, but I find the T-amp to not be accurate.

Is it so on all tracks ?? What type of music do you listen to ? Are you sure that it's not your speaker which are super bright ? or your listening position close to walls ?

95% of Today's pop music, dubstep, dance music and other styles suffer from very crappy, over-bright, piercing and sibilant problems.

While listening on top professional equipment, those tracks sound awful and very hard to listen to ALL THE TIME.

By the way even on Sade- Smooth Operator there are ugly sibilances here and there :)

Try something, if you have TRACY CHAPMAN - FAST CAR on vinyl, cd or wav , try it and tell me how you hear her vocals ?


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