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Old 30th July 2012, 07:42 AM   #41
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It's difficult to tell from the pictures and I can't find a similar jack from any suppliers that would have alink to a datasheet.

You really need to get yourself a cheap multimeter. You could figure out what each pin is for in a matter of seconds if you had one.
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Old 30th July 2012, 07:46 AM   #42
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On the 5 pin ones I suspect the two odd ones on one edge are for mechanical support when soldered to a PCB

On all the others the signal ground pin is almost sure to be the one nearest the front leaving the other two as L and R
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Old 30th July 2012, 08:38 AM   #43
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I suspect that for your jack socket with 5 pins, 1 of those pins is used for the common ground connection, the other 4 consist of 2 connected pairs, one pair for the L channel, the other pair for the R channel. When the plug is NOT plugged into the socket each of the 2 pins in each pair is connected together. However, when a plug is*inserted into the socket the two pins get mechanically disconnected with one of thepins in the pair connecting the the L channel (and for the other pair of pins, one of the pins connects to the R channel).

In other words, for your 5 pin socket, you need not connect to 2 of the pins & you've got to work out which of the other 3 pins connect to ground, L and R.

Phew! I bet that makes not sense whatsoever!

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Old 2nd August 2012, 08:31 AM   #44
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Anonymous1, Mooly and Andy.....Thanks again, you guys are the sweetest!


You guys were all right on the money with your descriptions. I am able to solder just to 3 pins, and 2 are left unused. I did decide to remove the 3.5mm jack that was soldered to the PCB. I then soldered my wires directly to the board.

After posting this I did go and buy myself a multimeter, now I just have to learn how to use it, hahaha.

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I also use 7.2v remote controlled car batteries to power mine - no whistling sound, and one charge will give ~2 hours at rather loud levels. >4 hours if the volume's at a more sane level.
Have fun, though - these are really cool boards to play with.

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Chris,
I would love to know more about this. Did you wire your board with just with a 7.2V remote control battery? Or did you wire it so you could use a wall plug and a 7.2V battery?

I think it would be so cool to be able to make this a portable. But I wouldn't want it to be only a battery powered unit. Is it possible to wire this up so it could have both a wall charger and a battery? I am also wondering if you one could use a 12V SLA battery.

I posted a question in the boominator similar to this but never received a response. Maybe someone will elaborate here. Pretty please.

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Chris,
I would love to know more about this. Did you wire your board with just with a 7.2V remote control battery? Or did you wire it so you could use a wall plug and a 7.2V battery?

I think it would be so cool to be able to make this a portable. But I wouldn't want it to be only a battery powered unit. Is it possible to wire this up so it could have both a wall charger and a battery? I am also wondering if you one could use a 12V SLA battery.

I posted a question in the boominator similar to this but never received a response. Maybe someone will elaborate here. Pretty please.
You twisted my arm.

Here's my little project - Portable sound system (long first post - no, really...)

I just used a normal DC socket on the speaker itself, found a matching wall power supply, and made an adaptor to go between the battery and the speaker.
The battery usually sits on the floor behind the speaker - once its set up its almost always stationary, so I didn't bother to make a nice tray.

You could use a SLA battery, but (as you'll see on my linked thread) there are options for far more capacity in a smaller package.
I've been meaning to get one of those CCTV batteries for a while, but so far the two RC batteries I have have been sufficient - I can get several hours of music out of one battery, but not particularly loud.

If it was my project, I'd get one of those CCTV batteries, mount it inside the speaker, and have a clever switching system (that I haven't quite worked out yet) that'll enable you to power the speaker from the wall or battery, or charge the battery.
You could use a wire link and two sockets on the back (one connected to the battery, one connected to the amplifier) so you can physically plug into either.

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If you want to use an SLA then things are easy

The amp can be designed as battery powered. That is the battery feeding via a switch to the amp.

The charger is connected across the battery with a diode in series to prevent the battery discharging back into the charger when mains power isn't present.

The rating of the charger can be such that it either powers the amp and can recharge the battery at the same time or it can be of lower current ability which means it would only charge the battery when the amp was not in use.

The charger needs to be able to supply around 15volts DC and be current limited. The diode will lose around 0.7 volts so the battery sees around 14.3 volts which is perfect.

The voltages for SLA's are important. The battery can stand 13.8 volts 24/7 but will take a longer time to come back to 100% charge after use. Up to 15 volts can be used for "cyclic" use where it is charged and discharged regularly and never left on charge for long periods.

Safety warning for SLA's You must always use an inline fuse connected as near as possible to the battery positive terminal. These batteries have a huge current capacity (even the small 7AH ones can just about start a small car) so the risk of fire if a short occured is an obvious danger.
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Be VERY careful if intending to use Li-on batteries. They need to be charged correctly or they WILL go bl00dy *BANG* - and quite spectacularly too!!! To do this, the chargers have some degree of intelligence and monitor the charging current and output voltage. Hence I would be cautious of adding a diode in series with the output of the charger as it may get confused due to the voltage drop caused by the diode.

Just a heads-up.

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Scary.... I think I will pass on the battery, lol.

Ok now I am brainstorming again.

I think it would be awesome to add an pod dock to the top of my enclosure. I am using a 12v 2a wall wart power supply. Is there enough amperage to power and charge the ipod?

Also thinking about adding a little clock that normally runs off of 1 AA battery but I would like to power it with the power supply as well.
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I don't do ipods

but aren't those things USB compatable ? If so they need 5 volts and no more than 500ma.

What happens to the clock when the unit isn't powered up... does it stop ?

Supply is easy... two series silicon diodes connected across where the AA battery goes. Stripy end to the negative terminal. These will function as a zener diode of a round 1.3 volts. A resistor feeds to the pos terminal from the 12 volt supply. Value around 6800 ohms at a wild guess.

If you add a "super cap" across the battery terminals and add a further diode in series with the resistor (to stop the cap discharging back into the PSU) it should allow the clock to run for quite some time with no AC power present.
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