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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Indiana
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I'm curious if there are any class D chips out there that allow for a simple design and can run on 12VDC and produce somewhere between 15 and 25 Watts? This will be powered by a PC power supply and does not have to be audiophile quality but would like it to sound as good as possible.
If no such Class D chip exists I was leaning towards using a TDA1554 (or perhaps the TDA8566 which is in the current product lineup). The Class D appeals to me due to lower heat and power consumption. Circuit doesn't have to be as simple as the one for TDA1554 but I need it to be inexpensive and easy to assemble. The specs for the TA2020 look perfect for this but I was really wanting something simpler requiring fewer components. |
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Anonymityville
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Sorry, but "simple" and "Class-D" don't really go together; at least not in the same sense as a "simple" Class-AB chipamp (more to do with layout than component count).
To get 15-25W RMS from a 12V supply, you will need a fairly low impedance load. You can get that power range with a 4R load at about 10% distortion though. The "simplest" Class-D chipamp I have built uses the TPA3122D2. It will need to be bridged to get the power you want though. My TPA3122D2N BTL proto Digital Amplifier Solutions - Analog-Input Class-D Speaker Amplifiers - TPA3122D2 - TI.com
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Indiana
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That's what I figured after taking a look at quite a few schematics for class D. Thanks for the response. It will help in my decision on what direction to take with this. I'd love to do Class D for this but Class A/B probably makes more sense for this application and price point.
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Join Date: May 2006
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Or you could buy one of a number of prebuilt Tripath based amps off ebay for about what the chip would cost you. At 4 ohms you might get close to 15W...
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Indiana
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I still may go that route. I was looking to combine a few different applications onto one PCB for the sake of neatness and ease of wiring. I will be driving a 4ohm load and was definitely thinking of the absolute maximums when specifying 15-25Watts.
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Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: USA
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25W at 4R is 28.28V peak-to-peak, a bit hard to get with a 12V supply without an inverter.
A/D/S made a bi-polar transistor amplifier with 25.3V peak-to-peak (20W/4R) with a bridged CFP output stage (with voltage gain) that ran on 13.8V (automotive 12V).
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Check TDA1562Q. This IC is class AB/H and includes a voltage doubler, so efficiency is better than class AB, and 4 ohm output power is 3 to 4 times what the usual 12V class AB or D amps would produce.
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Indiana
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Interesting. Thanks! Right now I'm leaning toward the TDA7376B simply because it comes in a multiwatt package which would be much easier to find heatsinks for. Is there an "off the shelf" heatsink available for the NXP chips like the TDA1562Q or TDA8566? |
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Anonymityville
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I have a TDA7370B I recently pulled from an old powered PC 2.1 speaker setup. It should give close to the same power/performance as the TDA7376B.
You can have it if you want it. Giving it away will save me from starting another project I don't need. TDA7370B Datasheet
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Join Date: Jun 2009
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A 41hz AMP6 basic will do this from 12v.
See 41Hz Audio:AMP6-BASIC kit Here is a quote from the web page: "The output power is around 2x25W RMS maximum, into 4 ohms at 10% THD+N. Up to about 2X15W, the THD+N is below 0.1%. " Mark |
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