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Old 10th June 2009, 09:36 PM   #131
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No, the 100W boards are already bridged.


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Well I see that the outputs of each chip are bridged, but why can't you bridge 2 of the tp2050's together? What components would you have to add?
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Old 13th June 2009, 03:27 PM   #132
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Hi, I have a question for those who have used the 2*100 TK2050. sure amp board.

I wonder if anyone has used it as a sub amp. Would it be suitable? I am thinking about using just one channel to power a sealed box 12" sub passively crossed at 100Hz, or using a PLLXO:

http://www.t-linespeakers.org/tech/f...ssiveHLxo.html

I understand that I should only expect 75W at 4@ from each channel, so I will just have to find a sub that is on the efficient side. say, 90db?

What do you guys think?
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Old 14th June 2009, 01:33 AM   #133
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The amp should work fine as a sub amp. In calculating the values for caps & resistors, keep in mind that input impedance of the amp is 22K.

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Old 14th June 2009, 01:44 AM   #134
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I've been listening to this amp for the last 24 hours and it is quite good. I purchased the Meanwell 24V supply and replaced the input caps with 2.2 Dayton 1% poly's I had on hand.

I do have to say that I received ArjenHelder's 2020 amp at the same time and I slightly prefer it. The the highs on the Sure 2050 become a little fatiguing to listen to after awhile, but the bass is excellent.

I might just end up biamping with the Sure on the bass and the 2020 amp on the highs!
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Old 14th June 2009, 01:50 AM   #135
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I have both the Topping Mk-20 (not the 2020 PCB) and the sure board and I prefer the sure board with battery, esp with bass. The topping has upgraded power supply caps (4x2200uf) and input cap. The sure board is not modded.

I tested them on the Natalie P MTM speakers (4 Ohm impedance). Perhaps the higher power rating of the sure board helps here.

Also, I'm sure personal preference plays a large role here.


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Old 14th June 2009, 05:55 AM   #136
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vaughn, I 'm using a TA2020 in a tri-amp to power my highs at the moment. It's very good and the low noise floor means no hiss

Iv'e currently got a TA2022 powering my mids. There is a bit of a hum if I put my ears close to the speaker though, I'm contemplating getting the sure board to take over from it. How is it for midrange?

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Old 14th June 2009, 06:01 AM   #137
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HI,

I have received my 2*50W and 2*100W Sure amp units for testing. I will test each one separately.

I intend to:

1. run them using 2 sets of 2*12V battery connected in series running the 2 sets in parallel to get 24V.

2. listening to the original circuitry for a while before I start to modify them. The 3 areas which I believe would improve the sound are:

a. input capacitors, remove the 1.0uF and 0.1uF in parallel and replace them with 1*2.2uF. Sonic caps( not to expensive) I have in mind.

b. remove all the power supply caps with 2*Panasonic caps(1000uF each) which I have in hand. Add more power caps if necessary.

c. the feedback SMD resistors replaced with fixed resistors such as vishay(or similar) resistors.

d. the o/p inductors replaced with better quality inductors, the existing inductors look OK to me. any comment?

e. I cannot do anything to chip layout which is fixed.

Most likely I will do all the mods in a single sitting rather listen to each mod in succession. I will post of any interesting findings here.

Any other suggestions please post here.

In the long term(if the amp units are good enough) I will use the 2*50W to power the mid range and 2*100W for the bass unit.

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Old 14th June 2009, 06:06 AM   #138
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Would 24v 6A be enough for the 2*100w version?
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Old 14th June 2009, 06:43 AM   #139
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vaughn, I 'm using a TA2020 in a tri-amp to power my highs at the moment. It's very good and the low noise floor means no hiss

Iv'e currently got a TA2022 powering my mids. There is a bit of a hum if I put my ears close to the speaker though, I'm contemplating getting the sure board to take over from it. How is it for midrange?

col.

I need a little more time with it before I make any absolute statements. I just spent the evening listening to the MKIII board of the 2020 from ArjenHelder and it is quite nice sounding. A little more relaxed than the 2050 board. The 2050 with the more stout Meanwell supply has better bass, no surprise, but not drastically so. I have been using the 2050 board mounting directly on top of the 24v switching supply, which may be causing the 2050 board to be picking up noise from the switching action of the supply.
I will try it tomorrow with the supply as far from the audio circuitry as possible. I should note also that I removed the BJ 6CA's (the transient voltage suppressors) as Audio1st did, it may be that they ultimately need to go back into the circuit.

I have been listening on some Infinity RS Kappa 6 speakers that I just finished rehabbing(which have a very revealing and extended treble), but I might pull in my Usher 2 ways tomorrow and try them out.

In any case, an excellent amp for the money, especially if you can pick up a cheap power supply or have one on hand.
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Old 14th June 2009, 07:57 AM   #140
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"Would 24v 6A be enough for the 2*100w version?"

Sure, you will probably get about 40W/4R on 24V.
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