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 12th February 2009, 09:33 PM #1 diyAudio Member     Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: DUS Class-D outputfilter dimensioning Hi folks. I am just trying to figure out how to dimension the outputfilter of my class-D amps to match them properly to my load (which is actually 16R). I couldn't really find any recommendations for 16R. I looked around a bit and couldn't find a consistant approach how to get the filter dimensioned. Basic assumption: I assume the filter should deliver a 12db slope (meaning each pole gets the same fc ) and a cutoff frequency in the range of 30-50khz . I used following formulas: R=Rload f=cutoff frequency C=1/(SQRT(2) 2*PI*f*R) L=SQRT(2)*R/(2*PI*f) I ended up with 0.14uf and 36uh (2*36uh=72uh total) for best match of fc=50khz at R=16R. If I'd use values: f=50kHz R=4R I end up using above formulas with 0,56uf and 9uh per inductor (2). Which is quite close to the recommended Tripath values for 4R loads. 8R (22uf/10uH), as recommended by Tripath for 8R loads, would deliver f1=64khz f2=90kHz . Doesn't look that great to me. IMO the L should be also increased to 14-15uh. Using e.g. 4R basic Tripath filters on a 16R load, I'd end up with one pole of the filter at 15khz and the other at 180kHz. Which would be more or less useless?!?!? I hope somebody can tell me if above is correct the way I see it. Did I forget anything? I am aware that I did not consider the inductance of the voice coil. Should I? (From what I've seen. 99% of the examples are just talking about load as R=pure resistive) Perhaps somebody could get me a hint of the ranges I need to stay in and what impact a poor dimensioned filter would really have. How well have the filters per channel to be matched? THX for your support. __________________ ::: my audioblog - latest: streaming network setup :::
 13th February 2009, 09:55 AM #2 diyAudio Member     Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: DUS Hi folks. Hmmmh. Not very much of response yet! No ideas? Anyhow: I have a 2nd issue -- the next stage: The amp output filter will obviously also heavily interact with speaker impedance changes. I think it might be very useful to think about a speaker linearization with a Zobel filter. Can anybody comment on this idea? Cheers __________________ ::: my audioblog - latest: streaming network setup :::
 13th February 2009, 04:58 PM #3 diyAudio Member     Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Lisboa, Portugal look at this application note from Texas instruments: http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/tec...tName=sloa119a and this one: http://www.audiodesignline.com/howto...UNN2JVN?pgno=1 hope it help
 14th February 2009, 04:04 PM #4 diyAudio Member     Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: DUS THX. Interesting to see at audiodesignline.com that leaving the filter out wouldn't potentially really hurt very much. Just a ferrite bead core on the lines and a 1nf to ground on each outputleg would do quite a good job. Perhaps it is worth a try. Cheers __________________ ::: my audioblog - latest: streaming network setup :::
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 Interesting to see at audiodesignline.com that leaving the filter out wouldn't potentially really hurt very much. Just a ferrite bead core on the lines and a 1nf to ground on each outputleg would do quite a good job. Perhaps it is worth a try.
If you leave the filter out, you have to put the amplifier really close to loudspeaker or the cables from the loudspeaker will radiate EMI, not a good idea.

For me the best cores for output filter is the micrometals txxx-02, they have very low core lost and can be use to 40Mhz.
Search for micrometals on ebay and you will find cores like t130-02, t157-02, t200-02, t300-02. The bigger the better. I use t130-02.

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 I think it might be very useful to think about a speaker linearization with a Zobel filter.
Yes, its the ideal to have the loudspeaker impedance with the lowest variation in impedance, but if you use post filter feedback this is not so important .

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