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Old 5th December 2008, 10:44 AM   #1
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Default IRS2092 Amp Design: Please help!

Hi,

I am trying to make a class-D amp,using IRS2092(S) and IRF6655 for my term here, and I am quite stuck at getting the amp to start working!

My design is based on recommended design by IAR. Here are the details:
(All voltages referred to ground)

1. The bus voltages are +/- 25 Volts
2. The voltage at COM pin is -24.8V
3. Voltage at CSD pin is +4.9V
4. Voltage at VSS pin is -6.9V
5. Voltage at VAA pin is +7.05V
6. Voltage at VREF pin is -7.14V
7. Voltage at OCSET pin is -20.3V
8. Voltage at DT pin is -23.5V
9. Voltage at VCC pin -12.8V
10. Voltage at VS pin is +2.44V
11. Voltage at VB pin is +16.9V
12. Voltage at CSH pin is +2.44V
13. Voltage at VSS pin is -6.9V

So far, I have gone by the "recommended operating conditions" column in IRS2092 datasheet and found that I meet the conditions for normal operation. For example, The V(CSD) voltage, referred to VSS is about Vth1, and that VBS (Voltage between VB and VS) is also above 10V. I can see that the comparator pin is working, as I can see the square waves generated by the OTA.
However, my HO and LO pins are firmly off, which beats me. Can anyone please help? I am attaching my schematics. At this point, I am bothered as much about performance as about getting the IRS chip to start!

This design is supposed to deliver only 40W to a 4-ohm load.

Would really appreciate suggestions.

Thanks

Devendra
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Old 5th December 2008, 10:58 AM   #2
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Are you not missing the required ground connection to pin 2 of the 2092?
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Old 5th December 2008, 08:39 PM   #3
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Default IRS2092 Amp Design: Please help!

Hi Ouroboros,

Oh! I have added the ground connection. It did not help matters though. I see from the IRS2092 datasheet that voltage at CSD pin tells me the state of the chip, and I calculate that at the voltage that I have seen and provided here, the chip should be working normally.

Here is the updated schematic

Do you think I am wrong here?

Thanks for your time and patience.

Devendra Rai
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Old 5th December 2008, 10:49 PM   #4
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put a capacitor between your op amp and the 2092 input pin
I think the offset voltages are not the same, causing the amp to go into an error mode.
2092 is referenced to ground on a split supply, the op amp,s positive
pin must be referenced to the same voltage.
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Old 6th December 2008, 03:10 AM   #5
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Devendra,
Try Removing R20. R20 and R21 are forming a voltage divider for the Opamp U2-A. with VCC+ = to -12.8V this means that you have -6.4V coming out of the opamp. This will make the rest of the circuit try to put out about (47/4.2)*-6.4~=-71.6V. One oddity I noticed is the Vref should be 5V above COM, but your vref is setting at -7.14 this puts it at around 17.66 and a current draw of 1.8mA out of that pin which is too high, the data sheet says it should be between .5mA and .8mA but the value of resistors you have for OCSET are good values that might mean there is something wrong with your chip. Try pulling R20, if that does nothing then try replacing the IRS2092 it's self.
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Old 13th December 2008, 01:35 AM   #6
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Default Re: IRS2092 Amp Design: Please help!

Quote:
Originally posted by Devendra

Here is the updated schematic
Hello from Japan.
I am also planning to build IRS2092 amp. I checked your
schematic and found that your self oscillation frequency
is intended to 400KHz which is given form IRS's application
note AN-1138. I am attaching the table of frequency set up
from that document, herewith.

Related to this circuitry, C4(2n) and C7(1n) are in parallel in yours.
I don't know the suitable value of these capacitance, but the
reference designs don't use such big capacitors, usually 1n is
used.

Regarding to CSD voltage, I think +4.9V is enough to activate
the CHIP ENABLE.
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Old 21st March 2009, 02:18 PM   #7
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dear all
i am using irs 2092 . it is not working properly . i feel problem in oscillation area . ic is not generating triangular wave . the capacitor and resistor value which u have suggested i have placed .
please suggest
thanks
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Old 22nd March 2009, 01:09 AM   #8
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hi Vijesh,
did you follow ir suggested schematics?
Im using 470r and 3x1kpf ,like one ir suggestion,400khz no problems.Be carefull at ocp adjust.In my case , i had to adjust it qa little far from calculated.
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Old 5th April 2009, 09:34 AM   #9
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dear sir / mam
i am using pcb of IRAUDAMP7D and i have mount component same it is in one (A) section (half bridge ) after power up i get -ve 5 v on csd pin which is wrong . ic is in shut down mode . please suggest me .


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Old 9th May 2009, 08:53 AM   #10
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I would like to build a Class D too.

Do any one have a chance comparing IRAUDAMP7D with Hypex UcD180HG (with or without HxR).

Which one sounds better?

For UcDxxxHG, is it really worth to add the regulator HxR? Will it sound even better after adding them? Or, their purpose is only reducing noise.

For IRAUDAMP7D, I do not have the reference kit. But, from the datasheet, I think there is a mistake on figure 36 about full bridge. Near S300 DPDT, are the "bridge" and "stereo" labels in wrong position?

Do anyone think that can I use a balanced input for full bridge instead of inverting by op amp?

Thanks

Jackie
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