B&O ICEpower modules – any built?

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My only disappointment with the modules is the poor thermal design. It would have been nice if they built them in a way the could easily be attached to a heatsink.

They only get slightly warm after playing for awhile, but I haven't pushed them very hard. I can imagine they would heat up a lot more if they were used as a small sub amp that was often pushed to clipping.
 
Nisbeth said:
The 200ASCs are used in many commercial speakers/subwoofers without any fans or heatsinks, so if I were you I'd wait a little before I start worrying ;)


/U.

I didn't say I was worried, I just said it would have been nice if they were built in a way that allowed a heatsink to be attached.

The continuous output power these modules are capable of is a lot less than the devices could handle if properly cooled. The proof of that is in the datasheet
 
Just keep in mind that some of the modules are missing some basic protection circuitry - might or might not matter to you ...

buzz1939 said:
Maybe this is mentioned above but just a reminder, be sure you're clear on whether the modules have any protection against shorts, dc - a little discussion by 2 engineers here (Jack Hidley, formerly of NHT) and here

"I’ve had a lot of experience with the 500A modules and even more with the 500ASP modules. I’ve gained most of experience because of the failure with causes by the lack protection these modules offer, generally caused by customer errors. The only protection the 500A modules offer is under-voltage per B&O; this is why we quit using them on our customers’ product." - EJ Sarmento, Wyred 4 Sound

"I completely agree about the total lack of protection circuitry on the B&O modules. It was very shortsighted of B&O to not include anything and especially dumb to not disclose this for a long time. For both the P2 and P5, we had to build an extra PCB to add all of the normal protection to the amplifier. Shorts, DC, etc. Any power amplifier without these basic protection circuits is just not acceptable." - Jack Hidley, ex NHT
 
TNT said:
Sorry, these modules are only for companies - I was lucky getting hands on a pair.

BR /


You can buy the 1000ASP module from 2 sources - Marchand Electronics,

http://www.marchandelec.com/amplifiers.html

or this guy

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZaudiotek168

Both sell them for about 500. each, so I would buy from Marchand versus a guy in Taiwan.

FYI, they are blowing out the NHT Power2 for $499. that has 3 B&O modules inside - one 500ASP and 2 500A.
see post 20 -
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1006934

"The Power2 uses one 500ASP and TWO 500As. The amplifier channel on the 500ASP does nothing. This way both channels have absolutely identical behavior since they use exactly the same amplifier module."

If you buy two Power2s, you have 6 modules.

http://www.listenup.com/NHT+POWER+2+-Clearance--p-POWER-2-p-49702.html

Bob
;)
 
Hello
I build a 500A
http://www.icepower.bang-olufsen.com/files/solutions/icepower500adata.pdf
I doubt on connecting connector JST
the data sheet said something (page 3/16)
and serigraphy said something else
where is the pin 1?
Thanks !

icepow1.jpg


icepow2.jpg
 
I just wanted to report that I have successfully replaced the 33078/9 with LME49720/40 on my 200ASC boards and they still work. ;)

Does anyone know where the "DC blocking" takes place? Is this some kind of active circuit I'm ignorant of, or are one of the many small ceramics responsible?
 
500ASP

We make powered loudspeakers and we have been using the 1000A, 500A, 200ASC and 500ASP quite successfully since 2001. We are very happy with the reliability and sound quality as are our customers.

We are fully aware of the limitations as well as the pluses of the ICE Power modules. Yes, with sine wave testing you cannot use the amplifiers at full power at 20KHz. But music does not have levels at 20KHz that high. With music there are no limitations.

Dan
 
bwaslo said:
Thanks for the report. I may get brave and try it myself (wish I had bought spares when the modules were cheaper....). Was the change worth it?

Worth what? It took 10 minutes and didn't cost me a dime. :clown:

Seriously though, I have no idea. This was one of those "I did it because I could" mods. They still sound great, but I didn't bother with a before and after comparison.
 
I thought those might be it too, but if you look at the block diagram in the 200ASC datasheet it shows the "DC blocking" comes after the input buffer.

The ceramics by the inputs might just be for RF filtering. I will have to probe around a bit and see if one side of the cap is connected to ground.
 
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