RJH3047 (IGBT) datasheet wanted

Pafi · 22nd February 2008, 09:20 AM

And RJP3043 too. These are 300 V IGBT-s, I'd like to use them in ClassD amp, but I don't know even the manufacturer of them.

I measured already most of DC parameters, but detailed switching parameters are needed (Eoff, Qrr of diode, stb...).

Pafi · 22nd February 2008, 09:21 AM

I'm searching info about 2 other IGBT also. They are IXYS made, but I don't find them on the official homepage. IXGP70N33TBM-A

Pafi · 22nd February 2008, 09:23 AM

And IXGQ90N33TCD1

Eva · 22nd February 2008, 10:00 AM

Where did you get these IGBTs? Are they semi-custom parts being used by some amplifier manufacturers in agereement with semiconductor brands before they are released to the general public?

Pafi · 22nd February 2008, 10:17 AM

I dismounted them from some rejected PCB from Samsung. It wasn't an amplifier, nor an SMPS, I guess it was a driver of some kind of big display, or vehicle. They seem to be new development indeed, but unfortunately not especially for audio.

Shortcircuit · 22nd February 2008, 11:17 PM

Hi Pafi!
I found similar one : IXGQ90N27PB
http://ixdev.ixys.com/DataSheet/DS99...GQ90N27PB).pdf
IXGP and IXGA parameters is equal. (the difference is the package)
IXYS don't like to notify Qrr in body diode.

Probe it, be brave...
Regards!

Pafi · 23rd February 2008, 09:32 AM

Hi!

Thanks! Sadly this has too high fall time for audio.

I've tried some of them (RJ...), and they weren't good enough (eg. too high switching loss -> damaged at about 25...30 A peak current), but I think if I saw the datasheet, maybe I could figure out what to modify to reach a little higher efficiency.

I saw so many potencial in RJP3043! Vcebr=360V, Vce=1.5V @ 16A, tdon=20 ns, tdoff=60 ns, Qg=~30 nC... but current "tail" seems to be too long.

Shortcircuit · 23rd February 2008, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pafi
I've tried some of them (RJ...), and they weren't good enough (eg. too high switching loss -> damaged at about 25...30 A peak current)

what kind of the swicthing freq. ?
The RJ...s may be good for classD subwoofer amp with lower Fsw. (around 100-150kHz)
Did you probe IXGP70N33 ? looks more useful the TO220 package IGBT.

Pafi · 23rd February 2008, 02:27 PM

Unfortunately the switching freq was not fixed, so I can tell only the idle freq: 200 kHz, but this is somewhat irrelevant.

I didn't try IXGP70N33, mainly because the isolated package can dissipate very little power. I'm planning to remove isolation from the bottom... This has an ultra low saturation voltage (1V @ 16A), so I'm going to use in (resonant) power supply instead of in amp. I don't think it would be fast enough.

RJ...s are usable in sub amp, but worse than the previously used HGTG12N60A4D.

gunden · 21st May 2008, 05:22 PM

hello i need gp70n33 please could you help me

22nd February 2008, 10:00 AM	#4
Eva diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Near the sea	Where did you get these IGBTs? Are they semi-custom parts being used by some amplifier manufacturers in agereement with semiconductor brands before they are released to the general public? __________________ I use to feel like the small child in The Emperor's New Clothes tale

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22nd February 2008, 10:17 AM	#5
Pafi diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Budapest	I dismounted them from some rejected PCB from Samsung. It wasn't an amplifier, nor an SMPS, I guess it was a driver of some kind of big display, or vehicle. They seem to be new development indeed, but unfortunately not especially for audio.

22nd February 2008, 11:17 PM	#6
Shortcircuit diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2007	Hi Pafi! I found similar one : IXGQ90N27PB http://ixdev.ixys.com/DataSheet/DS99...GQ90N27PB).pdf IXGP and IXGA parameters is equal. (the difference is the package) IXYS don't like to notify Qrr in body diode. Probe it, be brave... Regards!

23rd February 2008, 09:32 AM	#7
Pafi diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Budapest	Hi! Thanks! Sadly this has too high fall time for audio. I've tried some of them (RJ...), and they weren't good enough (eg. too high switching loss -> damaged at about 25...30 A peak current), but I think if I saw the datasheet, maybe I could figure out what to modify to reach a little higher efficiency. I saw so many potencial in RJP3043! Vcebr=360V, Vce=1.5V @ 16A, tdon=20 ns, tdoff=60 ns, Qg=~30 nC... but current "tail" seems to be too long.

23rd February 2008, 02:27 PM	#9
Pafi diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Budapest	Unfortunately the switching freq was not fixed, so I can tell only the idle freq: 200 kHz, but this is somewhat irrelevant. I didn't try IXGP70N33, mainly because the isolated package can dissipate very little power. I'm planning to remove isolation from the bottom... This has an ultra low saturation voltage (1V @ 16A), so I'm going to use in (resonant) power supply instead of in amp. I don't think it would be fast enough. RJ...s are usable in sub amp, but worse than the previously used HGTG12N60A4D.

21st May 2008, 05:22 PM	#10
gunden diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2008	hello i need gp70n33 please could you help me

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