New ICE modules?

Baard · 30th April 2007, 12:16 PM

Hello all

Has there been any major upgrade in the ICE concept, besides SMPS, since the launch in 2001-2002?

Anybody knows if there is something going on in the near future? Have plans fore buying an ICE amplifier, but can wait if there is some upgrade, re-design or new models on the block.

Baard

phase_accurate · 30th April 2007, 01:04 PM

Who cares at all since these are made out of unobtainium anyway ?

Regards

Charles

P.S.: I have seen something suspicious: Why do they only use one of these for the WOOFER of their newest active three-way speaker ????

JensRasmussen · 30th April 2007, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by phase_accurate
P.S.: I have seen something suspicious: Why do they only use one of these for the WOOFER of their newest active three-way speaker ????

Maybe it's a cost issue?

\Jens

phase_accurate · 30th April 2007, 01:14 PM

I suspect a quality issue.

Regards

Charles

lumanauw · 30th April 2007, 01:37 PM

Does Jeff Rowland uses ICE modules?

phase_accurate · 30th April 2007, 02:02 PM

Yes

lumanauw · 1st May 2007, 01:05 AM

Quote:

P.S.: I have seen something suspicious: Why do they only use one of these for the WOOFER of their newest active three-way speaker ????

What amplifier is used for the other 2 way?

phase_accurate · 1st May 2007, 07:28 AM

Quote:

What amplifier is used for the other 2 way?

Unknown, i.e. not mentioned in their texts. They only mention that they use ICE power for the woofer. And there was also a hint in a German mag that they only use one for the woofer.

Regards

Charles

dmfraser · 3rd May 2007, 03:45 AM

I have a pair of the new 50ASX2 modules sitting in my office. 50W x 2 into 4 ohms. These are half bridge amps using their new driver chip from Sanyo. So they can be bridged.

With 120/240V power supply. And very reasonably priced. I got mine about the same time another fellow I know got his, a designer over at JBL. We joked over who saw them first.

The 125ASX2 and 250ASX2 modules a expected shortly.

Did I mention that we were both OEM buyers. Sorry folks but these are indeed unobtanium for the regular DIYer. But then I am also very happy with my Hypex UCD180 and UCD400 modules as well. They sound different than ICE Power but do not sound worse in any way. Still a very good product that you can indeed buy.

However, for other projects I am trying out the IRAUDAMP4 reference design from IR. I've already held JBL's prototype in my hands and am working on adapting it for 2 ohm operation in car amps.

And no, we are prohibited from selling ICE modules from our OEM stock. I talked to ICE about this a year or so ago and the roblem from their standpoint is that it takes a fairly skilled designer to deploy their modules reliably and they feel they cannot sell them for enough to the DIY market to justify the level of support they think they will have to provide to give total customer satisfaction. And they will not settle for less than total satisfaction.

Disagree if you like but they have made their decision.

Dan

IVX · 3rd May 2007, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dmfraser
These are half bridge amps using their new driver chip from Sanyo.

Dan, what is the name (marking code) for that Sanyo driver?

30th April 2007, 12:16 PM	#1
Baard diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Oslo	New ICE modules? Hello all Has there been any major upgrade in the ICE concept, besides SMPS, since the launch in 2001-2002? Anybody knows if there is something going on in the near future? Have plans fore buying an ICE amplifier, but can wait if there is some upgrade, re-design or new models on the block. Baard

3rd May 2007, 03:45 AM	#9
dmfraser diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Orange County, CA	New ICE Power I have a pair of the new 50ASX2 modules sitting in my office. 50W x 2 into 4 ohms. These are half bridge amps using their new driver chip from Sanyo. So they can be bridged. With 120/240V power supply. And very reasonably priced. I got mine about the same time another fellow I know got his, a designer over at JBL. We joked over who saw them first. The 125ASX2 and 250ASX2 modules a expected shortly. Did I mention that we were both OEM buyers. Sorry folks but these are indeed unobtanium for the regular DIYer. But then I am also very happy with my Hypex UCD180 and UCD400 modules as well. They sound different than ICE Power but do not sound worse in any way. Still a very good product that you can indeed buy. However, for other projects I am trying out the IRAUDAMP4 reference design from IR. I've already held JBL's prototype in my hands and am working on adapting it for 2 ohm operation in car amps. And no, we are prohibited from selling ICE modules from our OEM stock. I talked to ICE about this a year or so ago and the roblem from their standpoint is that it takes a fairly skilled designer to deploy their modules reliably and they feel they cannot sell them for enough to the DIY market to justify the level of support they think they will have to provide to give total customer satisfaction. And they will not settle for less than total satisfaction. Disagree if you like but they have made their decision. Dan __________________ Dan Fraser

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30th April 2007, 01:04 PM	#2
phase_accurate diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland	Who cares at all since these are made out of unobtainium anyway ? Regards Charles P.S.: I have seen something suspicious: Why do they only use one of these for the WOOFER of their newest active three-way speaker ????

30th April 2007, 01:14 PM	#4
phase_accurate diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland	I suspect a quality issue. Regards Charles

30th April 2007, 01:37 PM	#5
lumanauw diyAudio Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Bandung	Does Jeff Rowland uses ICE modules?

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phase_accurate diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland	Yes

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