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Old 22nd April 2005, 10:47 PM   #1
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Here's the deal.....running a biamp.......active crossover works fine. The amps were fine individually. When pumping music through them they both distorted badly. Also if you let that mess go for a couple of minutes the HF amp shorts from V+ to V-. Aby ideas? Need more info? I have a 600VA toroid feeding a full bridege then to 2200uF caps for PS.
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Old 22nd April 2005, 10:53 PM   #2
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... Aby ideas? Need more info? ....

Yes, please more info on your setup.

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LF side is same just switch the HPF for a LPF
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You have a gain of 2 on the LM3875.
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The feed back resistor is supposed to be 20k
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Old 28th April 2005, 07:31 PM   #8
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LF side is same just switch the HPF for a LPF

There are some observations:

First. Do you need such low gain (2x)? I have not tested this type of monolithic amplifiers at gains much lower than recommended (I've got down to 10x with no problems, not below). There exists the possibility of instability, and I suggest to check changing R14 from 1K to at least 10K, or 18K - 22K as recommended and see what happens.

Related to the previous point and with respect to the HF amplifier which is the one depicted, you have a 1 nF DC decoupling capacitor (C5). Not going into details, this converts the amplifier to an (unintended) voltage follower at low frequencies exacerbating the potential instabilities.

C5 (and the corresponding one for the LF side) should be fairly large (about 100 uF), and since they must be electrolytic to achieve this value, should be polarized. A handy alternative is to return the (-) side to the -V rail, but that will couple and amplify any ripple there, so it is better to devise an auxiliary simple zener regulator for biasing. (unless you have the -V rail already regulated and clean).

Lastly, don't forget to bypass the + and - rails to ground with 100nF and at least 10 uF on each side as close to the chips as practical. You may also want to try Carlos's snubberizing.

Hope some of this helps.

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Sorry I posted before your correction. Except for the gain issue, other points hold.

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when u said u test individually, do u mean with or without the active xover?
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Tested without active xover. so just the LM3875 circuit. I am figuring the problem, or at least part of it, roots in joining the circuits. just can't pin point it....I could be wrong
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