Scary! my old panasonic portable performs better than the GC!!

[demogorgon]

uhh.. how do i say this?

I had to take my GC to school again to run some tests on it and build the chasse, and so i plugged in my trusty old panasonic RX-CT900 portable casette and radio thingy with phono in's.

the first thing that struck me was the pure and well deffined treble, then the clean open mid's and the subtel, yet good bass.. it outperformes my lm3886 CG...

it makes the music so much more engaging and dynamic, not to nempton that a lot more detales are coming through..

wonder what chips are in there?
this is a litle scary actually..

i use a couple of unnefficient DIY 2-way speakers with seas tweeters, cat5 as speacercables and a audigy2 std. edition as a source if anyone wants to know..

-marius

[janneman]

Marius,

This is a Politically Very Uncorrect post. I doubt you will get a lot of replies...

Jan Didden

[UrSv]

I suspect you are having one of two problems:

1. Your GC is performing worse than it could.
2. Your Panasonic is performing way better than expected.

Number 2 might not be considered a problem.

[janneman]

Originally posted by UrSv
I suspect you are having one of two problems:

1. Your GC is performing worse than it could.
2. Your Panasonic is performing way better than expected.

Number 2 might not be considered a problem.

I see you (unconciously?) left out another possibility:

3. The GC works normally, and the Panasonic works normally.


Jan Didden

[Greg Erskine]

Originally posted by demogorgon
my trusty old panasonic RX-CT900 portable casette and radio thingy with phono in's.

the first thing that struck me was the pure and well deffined treble, then the clean open mid's and the subtel, yet good bass.. it outperformes my lm3886 CG...
if anyone wants to know..

-marius

Marius,

Can you post the schematic, I think I might build a PanasonicGlone or PG.

I think you have learnt a valuable lesson here. Audio is about what you like and you have to try things for yourself. You can't trust others opinions (to much) because we all have different tastes and expectations. Also, when comparing any item of hifi equipment it depends greatly on the other components in the system and the room and furniture.

BTW: Have you been drinking, taking medication or listening to devil music?

[demogorgon]

Originally posted by janneman
Marius,

This is a Politically Very Uncorrect post. I doubt you will get a lot of replies...

Jan Didden

you are totally correct. i suspected as much.

Originally posted by UrSv
I suspect you are having one of two problems:

1. Your GC is performing worse than it could.
2. Your Panasonic is performing way better than expected.

Number 2 might not be considered a problem.

No, it may not.. actually i have given the puzzeling litle panasonic some more thought:

what it really has other than the GC is faithfulness to the music.. and midband magic as Carlos would call it. and i have thoughts as to why. i'l have to try it up against my lm4700 amp, i'v got the repacement ic now. i think the panasonic uses a power opamp and has cut dramaticly down on capasitans.. but i dont know until i'v opned her up.

Originally posted by janneman



I see you (unconciously?) left out another possibility:

3. The GC works normally, and the Panasonic works normally.


Jan Didden

i dont have the lm3886gc here now, so a "blindtest" isn't possible.
i'l have to come back to you on whos actually the best.
the panasonic doesent put out a lot of power though, thats for shure. i link that to my thought of low capasitans..
(i bet you think i'm trying like HELL to convince myself that the cg is actually better now, arnt you? )

Originally posted by grege


Marius,

Can you post the schematic, I think I might build a PanasonicGlone or PG.

I think you have learnt a valuable lesson here. Audio is about what you like and you have to try things for yourself. You can't trust others opinions (to much) because we all have different tastes and expectations. Also, when comparing any item of hifi equipment it depends greatly on the other components in the system and the room and furniture.

BTW: Have you been drinking, taking medication or listening to devil music?

about that clone, that may turn into reality, as soon as i rip open it's guts.. but not right now, i'm enjoing the music to much..

the first time i'm testing the amp with the audigy and speakers though.. the treble is where teh audigy wins over my last card.. the old one had a bandwith of 16kHz..

as for "Devil music", you'd be surprised..
and drinking? only coke, and a Tuborg for dinner.
it takes a whole lot more than one to make all women beautiful, all music good and and the panasonic and my GC high end .

[scottw]

Is the "panasonic RX-CT900 portable casette and radio thingy" running on batteries?

scottw

[moamps]

Originally posted by demogorgon
......i think the panasonic uses a power opamp and has cut dramaticly down on capasitans.......

POWER AMP - AN7133,
PS - single 15V, C - 4700uF/25V

regards,
Milan

[carlosfm]

Originally posted by demogorgon
the first thing that struck me was the pure and well deffined treble, then the clean open mid's and the subtel, yet good bass.. it outperformes my lm3886 CG...

Come again?
Panasonic portable?
Equalizer? Loudness? Bass Boost?

Come on Marius, do you call it neutral?
I point on some directions: the Panasonic (k7+tuner) is better as a source than your source and/or it's built-in speakers are way better than those you have at home.
Comparing oranges with apples?

[Tekko]

I have seen in other threads that LM3875 sounds better than LM3886.