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Old 23rd December 2004, 06:44 AM   #1
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Default Anti thump (will this work)

I just got this idea.Istead of using a relay and all other stuff.Can I connect a simple spst switch on the speaker wires.I will first turn on the amp wait for some time say 10sec and then turn this spst switch on the speaker line.I think this is a simple solution.
Any drawbacks with this set up??I am sure it may add some series resistance on the speaker wires.But I think it may not matter much.
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Old 23rd December 2004, 07:23 AM   #2
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That's a fine idea.
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Old 23rd December 2004, 07:38 AM   #3
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Default really??

I am sure many pple would have already thought abt this .This idea just popped out of my head.There should be some drawbacks with this.Can anybody point out the draw backs please.
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Old 23rd December 2004, 07:52 AM   #4
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like any time anyone else has to use your system. or you upgraded and decided to sell it
you would be suprised how hard "turn on power switch, turn on speaker switch 10 sec later" could be.

a simple capacitor, resistor and relay, its still a contact that opens and closes, and just a couple of other components that are not in the signal path, not to mention relays tend to be a lot better made than a lot of switches on the market(depends what you use of course).
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One drawback: Lazyness

First you switch on the amp, then . . . wwwwwwaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiitttttttttt fffffffoooooorrrrrrrr ttttttteeeeeennnnnnn . . . . (oh, you get it ;-) seconds and then switch on yet another switch. Yes, it is do-able, but for most people (i believe) it will become a nuisance. For you and any other hifi-nerd it is no trouble, but try and ask your spouse . . .


One thing: The switch must be one that can handle a lot of current.
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Old 23rd December 2004, 08:11 AM   #6
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If the chip has a mute circuit, you could use that with a resistor and cap for delayed turn on.
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Old 23rd December 2004, 10:24 AM   #7
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Hi rs1026,

actually there is a good advantage to use the switch rather than relay...

You can disconnect the speaker before you turn off the amp.

If you search around the forum, you will find that beside turning on thump, there is another speaker thump that may happened: when you turn of the amp.

LM3875 datasheet say that it has undervoltage voltage protection, but I wonder why speaker thump also happen during turning off the amp.

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Old 23rd December 2004, 10:33 AM   #8
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I've had thump off problems since I built my first GC. I have considered some options and one was to use a relay in front of speakers. But I didn't want any unnecessary parts in signal path. The power of GC is in it's simplicity and we should leave it that way.

Anyway, one day I was making front plate for my chasis and have put a power on LED on it. I've had only those transparent (3mm) LED's in my drawer at the time. The one which lights red when turned on. I've basically put an resistor in front of LED without any calculation and it came out that LED lights pretty strong but I didn't have time to change this at the moment.

When I connected speakers I have noticed that thump off's are gone. Power LED is the only thing I have changed in whole amplifier, so my only explanation is that this LED consumes everything what's left ine elco's.

I have noninverted 3875 version with Pedja regulated PSU.

Tomislav.
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Old 23rd December 2004, 11:39 AM   #9
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Find out if there is any cheap 'power-on delay' relay available in the local market. U will be fed up with the switch

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Old 23rd December 2004, 11:43 AM   #10
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Default hmm

If I use a power on delay relay then how to eliminate power off thump??That way using a switch may be better because it(I) can control both power on and power off thumps
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