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Old 26th October 2004, 11:49 PM   #21
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Talking Been there, done that...

-but did not do much experimenting...just added 220nF & R.
BTW, tried different resistors?

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-but did not do much experimenting...just added 220nF & R.
BTW, tried different resistors?
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No, just 1 ohm.
I think it's better to deal with one component at each time.
Maby there's more to test, and more to improve, any beta testers out there?
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I was more thinking of inductive vs non-inductive resistors...

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Old 27th October 2004, 12:59 AM   #24
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I was more thinking of inductive vs non-inductive resistors...
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That is a really good question.
Carbon (or film) resistors is the way to go, no bobinated resistors here.
I'm testing with a 1 ohm 3w resistor, although I think that two 2.2ohms 3w in parallel would be fine too.
It's recommended something from 5 to 10w.
3w carbon resistors I can find easily.
More than that is not so easy around here, only bobinated.
I could order (more expensive) film resistors, but for test purposes it's carbon.
And it works fine.
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Very interesting.
Does the small value RC bypass include the small cap directly across +/- pins on the chip?
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since i've built my ucd180 based class d amp i've got a few gc's laying around doing nothing. i think i'll give it a try.

How much influence do the small caps have that are soldered to the chip? In all of my current clones these are ~1000uF panasonics or black gates. Do i need to replace them with smaller value ones?
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Very interesting.
Does the small value RC bypass include the small cap directly across +/- pins on the chip?
I'm not using it on this LM4780 board, due to lack of space (and the crazy pinout this chip has), but with LM3886 and others I normaly use 270nf poly between + and - pins on the chip.
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since i've built my ucd180 based class d amp i've got a few gc's laying around doing nothing. i think i'll give it a try.
Do it.

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How much influence do the small caps have that are soldered to the chip? In all of my current clones these are ~1000uF panasonics or black gates. Do i need to replace them with smaller value ones?
Yes, after the snubber there should not be big caps.
It would defeat the snubber's job.
100uf is what I use on the chip.
Alas, what works fine with regulated PSU also works fine here.
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