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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Portland, OR
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The feedback network is not in the datasheet.
Your circuit has a gain of 1 at DC and a gain of 20 or so beyond the pole frequency and I really haven't taken the trouble to figure out what it really does. Since people have found the feedback loop of the gainclone is THE MOST IMPORTANT element required to accomplish great sound, you should first try what has been found to work well and then experiment afterwards. What works well is a good, precision resistor of 20k (for your design) soldered extremely closely between pins 3 and 8. No capacitors on pin 8 at all unless you have really bad DC offset and then you should seek advice first. Read the huge history here or just follow what BrianGT has done. Copy as much of his schematic as you can. -Robert |
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Woodlands Circle
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I'll have to comment that the 3875 gives great bass...just make sure your source is not clipping...did you use a PC?? I had one that would produce a clipped signal if the eq is set too high for the bass frequencies...
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Toronto
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Make R32 1meg and R6 100K. See how it's going to sound then.
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What are you using for the 0.1uF caps? Change to mylar.
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I'd like to know how your power supply looks. In your schematic you have 100µF caps as rail decoupling. Is that all you have? If so, there's a fair chance that's the source of you problem. 100µF into 8 ohms is ~200Hz.
Rune
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Portland, OR
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The first post indicates he has 10,000uF at the output of the PS. Shouldn't be his problem.
-Robert |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Penang, Malaysia
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1) I am using 10,000uF caps for both rails but do not have the 100uF and 0.1uF caps at chip.
2) I started the circuit as shown in datasheet but later change to the circuit I posted here because of ringing problem. then I found that is the zobel network that solved the ringing problem and not the feedback loop. Anyway, both version of schematics did not give much bass at all. 3) Do I need to add in tone control to boost the bass? Or, this gc himself is capable to produce "ceiling-booming" bass? 4) I am using a tube preamp which use 5687 as driver tube. Will this caused problem on the bass? Thanks.
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If there's a coupling capacitor on the output of your preamp, or if the output impedance is high, you may have a problem. The input impedance of your GC is 11 kOhm. That could be too low. Try multiplying the input resistors by 10.
Rune
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Brisbane Australia
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In response to your bass issue, IF youve setup the feedback/gain correctly so ITs freq range is say 20-20000 at -3db, than it should produce the correct level of bass from thos freqs. ... anything but would afaiak be classed as distortion, should replicate the input signal !
-ed i dont think i made my point quite clear there... I was trying to say you should not need any tone controls to achive correct bass, only to ytailor any fetish you have with 'extra' bass |
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Penang, Malaysia
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Thanks for the info. Allow me to have some times to modify the input impedance and feedback configuration.
Will post the result regarding my finding later. thanks.
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