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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Serbia
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Hi!
I'm planing to build a Gainclone with a 12-stepped attenuator for volume control. Which are the optimal values for attenuation? Are 6dB steps good choice? Thanks |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Chicago area
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Hi Rookie.
It's just my opinion but I think 6dB steps are to course. The attenuators that I've build I used 2dB steps for the first few and then went to 3dB for a while and then 4dB for the last few. The 12 step switch is the problem. I would recommend trying to find a 24 position switch and giving yourself finer steps. Like I said, it's just my opinion. Later BZ
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Serbia
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Rookie,
Twelve steps are not a lot, so I think you cannot get the universal answer for your question. The answer will depend on the things like the source output level, amplifier’s gain and speaker’s sensitivity. But it can be tuned well enough. Pedja |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Somerset, SW England
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This also depends on which Gaiclone you build. If building the inverted design, I strongly recommend the attenutor specified on my Gainclone FAQ page.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Cabin John - MD
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I recently built an amp using LM3886s. It sounds great!!
I built a preamp using AD 825s which was very easy and really opened up the sound stage. Back to this at the end. I went through the volume control selection process, the criteria where cheap and good. (both scientific terms) I first tried an ALPs 50K 34 step attenuator which I bought on e-bay (lots availble) for 15.00. It really sucked - snap crackel and pop - blew up a test speaker (my fault). I could have gotten a lemon. I then purhcaed 2 Noble Black Beautys, 31 step steroe vlume controls. These work GREAT - smooth and quite with 31 steps. I paid 19.95 each on e-bay. Now backe to the pre-amp... I built a prototype on a jumber board. I set the input resistors so that a 50K control gave a maimum gain of ~ 2.5 (22K which I had on hand) and tested using a regulated +/- 15 volt supply. Sounded good. I then switched to two 9 volt batteries.....unbelievabel improvement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bill
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Toronto
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I do use 12 step MBB (very important) switch. I find 12 steps very good for me. The only thing is (as mentioned in the previous posts) that after you build it you'll have to find for yourself the optimum steps for the beginning of the attenuator. I haven’t corrected it yet (it's still quite acceptable) but I need larger steps at the beginning of the range. I use a $3 cheapo MBB rotary switch and it works great. I wouldn't go to 24 steps especially if you have separate switches for the two channels. At the end it's a personal choice.
Have fun. Those are the values that I use, but I need to decrees them for the first 3 steps. Still very good overall. |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Cabin John - MD
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Greg,
Can you tell us the source for cheap 12 position (ideally 2 pole) MBB swithces you are using. Thanks
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diyAudio Editor
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: San Francisco, USA
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Here's a nice calculator:
http://quadesl.com/attenuator.html Anyone have an opinion about what a good value for total attenuation is in dB ? |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Somerset, SW England
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It depends on what you are attenuating. Standard IGC, standard NIGC, buffered version, if so does the buffer have gain, gain of the amp etc etc.
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