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Old 7th November 2003, 08:05 PM   #1
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I just listened to The Wall CD (the first one) and on track 10, 50 sec into it, a girl says "Hello". Right after that there is an echoing voice in left channel saying "Hello" again, sort of washed out with the music.
I listened maybe 50 times to the girl saying "Hello" on a not too bad system. No way I can hear the second "Hello". Is it the echo of the room where she stands or does she really say "Hello" two times?
I can clearly hear the echo, some kind of hollow sound around the word. With headphones the voice is rather positioned a little bit left of centre and echoes out to the mid. An easy test was turning the headphone left to right and vice versa.

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Old 7th November 2003, 11:19 PM   #2
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I listened maybe 50 times to the girl saying "Hello" on a not too bad system. No way I can hear the second "Hello". Is it the echo of the room where she stands or does she really say "Hello" two times?
I can clearly hear the echo, some kind of hollow sound around the word. With headphones the voice is rather positioned a little bit left of centre and echoes out to the mid. An easy test was turning the headphone left to right and vice versa.

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It's not girl's voice but it seems like a man repeats after her Hello. It is sort of modulated by a music, but i can clearly hear the word. I was using that track for years in some music assesments, on not so bad systems, but also never noticed it before.

What I noticed about my current setup that resolution is very much improved and lyrics are much easier to comprehend. It's almost done automatically, even if the music is in a background. Also on older recordings, the tape hiss is easily noticable at the start and end, something that never took my attention before.

I have 2 CDs that almost never sounded right: Talking Heads - Naked and John Lydon - Psychopath. This time they are quite right.

Another thing I noticed with volume transformers. Before it seemed like they sound perfect on classical material and jazz, but with electronic music they somehow dulled the top end. Since I started using batteries, they sound fine on everything.
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I posted this once before but got no replies!

On The Pink Floyd album Dark Side of the Moon, on track two there is an airport announcement.

On a good system you can hear the flight number and three destinations. What are they?
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On The Pink Floyd album Dark Side of the Moon, on track two there is an airport announcement.
This is a tough one.
I managed to hear the second "hello" which to me is a synthesizer in some kind of tremolo arrangement.
Eric's "Oh funk" is neither a problem although I never heard it till now.
The airport and describing what is said is a far more difficult task.
From what you posted before I conclude that you can clearly ‘discramble’ the announcement?
The only thing I can come up with is a time announcement in Dutch: “kwart voor twee” and a flight number “Two One Five” The Dutch sentence is likely impossible so we will have to wait until Peter finds out what is said. He’s in the aircraft business after all.

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It is very clearly to hear on my well worn LP (bought 1974), but not to understand, I must admit. I probably would not even understand it on location of the recording too (because English is not my mother tongue...). But it sounds like much more flight numbers and destinations to me.

Do you understand what Clare Torry (?) says softly while singing in "The great gig in the sky" ?
I like very much the little joke speeding up the tape recorder by hand a little (more wobbling) at the end of that track. Maybe it was more slowing it down by hand during recording of the material and playing it back at correct speed. It could have happened unintentionally and than left...

This album is a musical and engineering masterpiece anyway. Besides the remarkable work done by Alan Parsons, Roger Waters introduced tape generated "3D" effects into pop music, which were never heard before outside the electroacoustic music community. They were developed much earlier by composers like Pierre Henry in the fifties or Francois Bayle in the sixties in Paris.

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Do you understand what Clare Torry (?) says softly while singing in "The great gig in the sky" ?
You better not...

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I won't comment on what peole hear as it will 'spoil' things for others but I must admit that I hadn't detected any Dutch. If there is some Dutch there we will have to rely on a Dutch speaker with a good hi-fi to tell us what is being said.
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I posted this once before but got no replies!

On The Pink Floyd album Dark Side of the Moon, on track two there is an airport announcement.

On a good system you can hear the flight number and three destinations. What are they?

It is track 3 on my disk. I can hear 255, but the destinations are not clear. But then again, English isn't my first language
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Well Peter i speak 2 languages, english and bad english.
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