TDA2030 for 3w speaker

maher471 · 6th July 2012, 10:22 PM

hi for all,
can any one help me, i have a complete pcb made with two tda2030 recovered from a broken stereo systems but i need to connect it to 3w speaker only, so how can i adapt it and what is the recommadation for the powersupply(voltage and current),

thanks for all in advance

Loudthud · 6th July 2012, 11:14 PM

Post a picture and note the value and voltage of any large capacitors. Note that there is a TDA2030 and a TDA2030A. The A version is rated for more power. What impedance is your speaker? A single rail 12V or 15V supply will probably allow a single chip to make 3W.

maher471 · 7th July 2012, 03:46 PM

hi Mr Loud Thud, thanks for your reply, I have made some photo, and for the speaker is 3w 4R and the amplifier use 2x12v AC in, for the output capacitor it is directly connected to the speaker.

maher471 · 7th July 2012, 03:49 PM

just for the 2 large capacitors are 25v 3300uf used for power supply AC filtering.

KatieandDad · 7th July 2012, 04:10 PM

The simplest way is just to not turn it up too loud.

I know that sounds flippant but try considering just limiting the input signal.

You could fit a resistor in series with the volume control for example.

The TDA2030 is rated at 18W in its H form.

If the volume control is 10K, placing a 10K resistor in series with it will limit the power to 1.8W.

maher471 · 7th July 2012, 05:55 PM

thanks Mr KatieandDad, good idea, I will try it, but I have read in the in the datasheet for TDA2030 the minimum power describes in the fig. 1 in Page. 4 is 4w for +-Vs=8v for 4R speaker, and I am not sure if I use +-6v for 3w output are ideal or not for the global quality of sound, another little question if I use +-6v AC transformer what current I need 'because I have a little transformer 2x6A 0.8A

maher471 · 7th July 2012, 06:05 PM

"2x6V"

Arty · 7th July 2012, 06:17 PM

output power you need multiplyd by 2 will allways be enough for powersupply side of things.
example, one needs mmm.. 2x 6 watt, then its 12w*2 = 24 VA psu.
Divide this by the voltage required by the amp, let it be for sake of example 10 volts.
Tadaaa,, 2.4 A current rating is surely enough.

Most probably the 3 watt speaker you have will take less than 3 watt input power.
I would not go verry close to minimum PSU voltage, nor maximum.
Stay at a healthy +-12 DC as supply voltgae for the chip.
IF, You find it way too easy to overdrive the speakers, then use a voltage divider at the input to reduce input signal.

Regarding Your little transformer, is that 2x6 V DC, or AC ?
If it is AC, then it will work. And current rating is allso okay.
If it is DC, then it is a bit on the edge of usability, chipamps do not like to be operated close to minimum supply voltage.

KatieandDad · 7th July 2012, 06:32 PM

Give the amp room to work at its best and limit how you use it.

maher471 · 7th July 2012, 06:37 PM

thanks 1000 Mr Arty for those details.

6th July 2012, 10:22 PM	#1
maher471 diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2012	TDA2030 for 3w speaker hi for all, can any one help me, i have a complete pcb made with two tda2030 recovered from a broken stereo systems but i need to connect it to 3w speaker only, so how can i adapt it and what is the recommadation for the powersupply(voltage and current), thanks for all in advance

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6th July 2012, 11:14 PM	#2
Loudthud diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Near Dallas Texas USA	Post a picture and note the value and voltage of any large capacitors. Note that there is a TDA2030 and a TDA2030A. The A version is rated for more power. What impedance is your speaker? A single rail 12V or 15V supply will probably allow a single chip to make 3W.

7th July 2012, 03:49 PM	#4
maher471 diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2012	just for the 2 large capacitors are 25v 3300uf used for power supply AC filtering.

7th July 2012, 04:10 PM	#5
KatieandDad diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: UK	The simplest way is just to not turn it up too loud. I know that sounds flippant but try considering just limiting the input signal. You could fit a resistor in series with the volume control for example. The TDA2030 is rated at 18W in its H form. If the volume control is 10K, placing a 10K resistor in series with it will limit the power to 1.8W.

7th July 2012, 05:55 PM	#6
maher471 diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2012	thanks Mr KatieandDad, good idea, I will try it, but I have read in the in the datasheet for TDA2030 the minimum power describes in the fig. 1 in Page. 4 is 4w for +-Vs=8v for 4R speaker, and I am not sure if I use +-6v for 3w output are ideal or not for the global quality of sound, another little question if I use +-6v AC transformer what current I need 'because I have a little transformer 2x6A 0.8A

7th July 2012, 06:05 PM	#7
maher471 diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2012	"2x6V"

7th July 2012, 06:17 PM	#8
Arty diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2011	output power you need multiplyd by 2 will allways be enough for powersupply side of things. example, one needs mmm.. 2x 6 watt, then its 12w*2 = 24 VA psu. Divide this by the voltage required by the amp, let it be for sake of example 10 volts. Tadaaa,, 2.4 A current rating is surely enough. Most probably the 3 watt speaker you have will take less than 3 watt input power. I would not go verry close to minimum PSU voltage, nor maximum. Stay at a healthy +-12 DC as supply voltgae for the chip. IF, You find it way too easy to overdrive the speakers, then use a voltage divider at the input to reduce input signal. Regarding Your little transformer, is that 2x6 V DC, or AC ? If it is AC, then it will work. And current rating is allso okay. If it is DC, then it is a bit on the edge of usability, chipamps do not like to be operated close to minimum supply voltage.

7th July 2012, 06:32 PM	#9
KatieandDad diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: UK	Give the amp room to work at its best and limit how you use it.

7th July 2012, 06:37 PM	#10
maher471 diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2012	thanks 1000 Mr Arty for those details.