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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Goa India
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I am trying to make chipamp with LM3886 output 30W RMS per channel, my config as under Transfo 200VA , 20-0-20 secondaries unregulated power supply with Capacitor 10,000uF/63V on each power rail Speaker 8 Ohms Gain 20X Attached picture of single sided PCB layout with component placement. Are there any deficiencies ? any improvements needed ? Thanks for your time Yatin |
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for some reason nearly all chip amp pcb layouts I've seen mistakenly go for "symmetry" in the pwr routing with +.- on opposite edges of the board, as far apart as possible - can't get more wrong from a circuit operation point of view
I'd put pwr traces, PS caps on the same (left) edge of the board, move the gnd trace from the left inwards look at current paths, minimize loop areas - this means pwr wires, traces need to be as close together as possible, as well as close to gnd the "star gnd" is poorly conceived - you should really want input signal ref, feedback network gnd and load gnd to be the "star" point - the jumpers to the gnd "racetrack" give many loops, paths for "gnd contamination" from the Class B currents that look half-rectified in the separate +,- ps wires and ps cap gnd return paths for just a single stereo build I'd just do point-to-point "air wire" or with at most a perf board - can be done really well and give better performance than many PCB layouts I see the only reason I can see for a PCB is if you want multichannel or active XO - then I'd think about system level power, gnd routing - probably add a op amp differential receiver for signal input and with the extra parts 2-layer becomes more attractive, gives better routing - I really don't care to work with home etched boards, of course a small batch from a PCB manufacturer that has prototyping deals only costs about what I now consider a "nice" restaurant dinner Last edited by jcx; 25th November 2011 at 05:38 AM. |
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Chatham, England
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But nowhere near good enough heatsinking to run at full rail voltage.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Goa India
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Thanks for detailed reply JCX, I wanted it to be on PCB because threre are other PCBs like Speaker Protection and Bass & Treble control
Would this be a better layout sonically ? Power ground and signal grounds are in separate traces tied via 10R/2W resistor Thanks Yatin Last edited by yatgai; 25th November 2011 at 09:53 AM. Reason: file not attached |
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: wigan
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Is there supposed to be a 10R 2W resistor in series with the output. |
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Scottish Borders
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Hi Yat.
the Power traces are far better located now. Try to thicken up the thin parts of those traces. They do have to pass high transient currents, or at least as large as the 3886 will allow. Look at PIN2. It is not connected. You can use this spare PCB area to thicken traces. Remove the 90degree internal corners from your traces. Imagine your electrons as yourself driving around a race track (Indianapolis). Round the corners. Re-trace the inputs to PINs 9 & 10. They are too far apart. Keep them as a close coupled pair from the two input terminals all the way to the two input PINs. Keep the Signal Return separate from the Power Ground. This is very important if you adopt the same PCB for a multi-channel amplifier. In monoblock you can get away with Main Audio Ground on the PCB, but not in multi-channel. Finally, you may find that very small ceramic caps make for excellent power pin decoupling. These can be fitted much closer to the Power PINs than those big 0.2" pin pitch film caps shown.
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Hi andrew.
Them traces will be fine with that 10R resistor in series with the output |
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