Audio Chirp/Squeal

Hawaiian Punch · 3rd April 2011, 09:56 AM

I have a Rockford P10002. Why does it chirp/squeal right at final shutdown.Other than that amp runs fine.
Thanks

Mooly · 4th April 2011, 11:34 AM

Design fault maybe ?
Many amps can behave unpredictably as the rails collapse, and if it causes any noise in the speaker then imo the design is incomplete as an amp should be totally silent on power up and power down. It's an age old problem. Does it do it in isolation... with just speakers and the supply and with no inputs connected.

wwenze · 4th April 2011, 12:00 PM

It's an age old problem, so what are the possible causes? My DAC does that when shut down after running for hours but not if it has only run for a short time.

Mooly · 4th April 2011, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wwenze

It's an age old problem, so what are the possible causes? My DAC does that when shut down after running for hours but not if it has only run for a short time.

The circuit design itself is the cause. It doesn't mean there is a problem, just that it behaves unpredictably as the rails collapse. There can even be a "race hazard" situation where multiple rails collapse at different rates... countless reasons really. There is no single fix or cure. There are examples of commercial amps that have had time constants changed to try and prevent such problems after customers complained... but the real answer is the design should be complete such that this either doesn't happen or is muted.

A DAC should have muting that operates within a few milliseconds of power down to prevent noises. I can think of some transistor radios that have done this, certainly several TV audio output stages over the years.

Hawaiian Punch · 9th April 2011, 07:14 AM

Thanks for the replies, As I was wiggling some wires around I found that my remote wire was loose. Now it shuts down without any noise.

3rd April 2011, 09:56 AM	#1
Hawaiian Punch diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2011	Audio Chirp/Squeal I have a Rockford P10002. Why does it chirp/squeal right at final shutdown.Other than that amp runs fine. Thanks

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Mooly diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007	Design fault maybe ? Many amps can behave unpredictably as the rails collapse, and if it causes any noise in the speaker then imo the design is incomplete as an amp should be totally silent on power up and power down. It's an age old problem. Does it do it in isolation... with just speakers and the supply and with no inputs connected. __________________ ------------------------------------------------------- *A simulation free zone.* *Design it, build it, test it.*

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4th April 2011, 12:00 PM	#3
wwenze diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2008	It's an age old problem, so what are the possible causes? My DAC does that when shut down after running for hours but not if it has only run for a short time.

9th April 2011, 07:14 AM	#5
Hawaiian Punch diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2011	Thanks for the replies, As I was wiggling some wires around I found that my remote wire was loose. Now it shuts down without any noise.