Go Back   Home > Forums > Amplifiers > Chip Amps
Home Forums Rules Articles Store Gallery Blogs Register Donations FAQ Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Chip Amps Amplifiers based on integrated circuits

Please consider donating to help us continue to serve you.

Ads on/off / Custom Title / More PMs / More album space / Advanced printing & mass image saving
View Poll Results: Which one would you go for?
PCB-1 5 45.45%
PCB-2 6 54.55%
Voters: 11. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 28th September 2010, 10:31 PM   #1
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Hereford, UK
Blog Entries: 1
Default Which LM1875 layout would you choose?

Hi all.

I'm going to make the LM1875 and have found two layouts which look nice and compact (and more importantly, for me anyway, have PCB images).

I'm interested to see which one would be the most popular choice amongst the more experienced members of the forum. Personally I like PCB-2, but only for its simplicity and lower number of components. Or maybe somebody could offer a better alternative?

Your feedback would be invaluable to a newbie like myself!

Thanks a mil!

John
Attached Images
File Type: jpg PCB-1.jpg (203.8 KB, 322 views)
File Type: png PCB-2.png (127.6 KB, 313 views)

Last edited by johnalexwarren; 28th September 2010 at 10:52 PM.
  Reply With Quote
Old 29th September 2010, 06:21 PM   #2
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
I vote for PCB-3.
PCB-2 has one big disadvantage. The capacitor on the inverting leg is too small. While the roll-off may be okay for a guitar amp, it is far too high for hi-fi and it is 22 times higher than at the non-inverting input when it should be lower or equal. Pity that there is not enough space to use a bigger capacitor there.
__________________
If you've always done it like that, then it's probably wrong. (Henry Ford)
  Reply With Quote
Old 30th September 2010, 05:21 AM   #3
ratza is offline ratza  Romania
diyAudio Member
 
ratza's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Sibiu, Romania
The layout of PCB 2 was designed by me about one year ago as tweeter amplifier but it had some flaws. Speaker ground is not on the board, it has to be taken from the power supply. I could not get rid of the hum until i did that. Although are a lot of other PCB versions for LM1875 on this forum, here's another one.
Attached Files
File Type: pdf LM1875_v2_PCB.pdf (12.7 KB, 106 views)
File Type: pdf LM1875_v2_PCB+SILK.pdf (18.7 KB, 81 views)
__________________
Any solution is a compromise.
  Reply With Quote
Old 30th September 2010, 05:43 AM   #4
diyAudio Member
 
abraxalito's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Hangzhou - Marco Polo's 'most beautiful city'. 700yrs is a long time though...
Blog Entries: 46
Send a message via MSN to abraxalito Send a message via Yahoo to abraxalito Send a message via Skype™ to abraxalito
PCB 1 gets my vote (PCB 2 has poor decoupling/grounding). Notice how the return currents through the decouplers have their own path back to the ground pin - not shared with any signal paths.
__________________
I think ideas are what you want to get rid of. I don't really like songs with ideas. - Leonard Cohen
  Reply With Quote
Old 30th September 2010, 05:53 AM   #5
spTOH is offline spTOH  Malaysia
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Malaysia
How about the layout from LM1875 datasheet page 8

http://www.national.com/ds/LM/LM1875.pdf
  Reply With Quote
Old 30th September 2010, 10:39 AM   #6
AndrewT is offline AndrewT  Scotland
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Scottish Borders
PCB1 nearly gets my vote.
I spotted it a few days ago but did not comment.

The speaker return only works for a monoblock amplifier.
As soon as you go to two or more channels the Speaker Return must be moved off board to the Main Audio Star Ground, that is shared between all channels.

The 100nF at the +ve power pin can be rotated through 90degrees to shorten the route for the decoupled currents. 0.1inch pitch caps here should perform even better since they will allow a shorter current route. Remember to correct the labels at the power input spades.

The Signal Ground should have an option for a direct connection to Power Ground or a resistor connection to Power Ground.
There is plenty of space to add that extra resistor option.
The extra resistor should have a pair of inverse parallel diodes in parallel to limit the voltage between Safety Ground and Signal Ground in the rare event of a Fault Current passing.
__________________
regards Andrew T.
  Reply With Quote
Old 30th September 2010, 11:39 AM   #7
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Hereford, UK
Blog Entries: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by spTOH View Post
How about the layout from LM1875 datasheet page 8

http://www.national.com/ds/LM/LM1875.pdf
Saw that, but I need a clean PCB layout without all the components drawn on it...
  Reply With Quote
Old 30th September 2010, 09:24 PM   #8
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Hereford, UK
Blog Entries: 1
Default *enjoying Big Bang Theory Series 3 marathon :O)*

Evening all!

Thanks to you all for your votes, comments and ideas. Interesting that it's level pegging, and cheers to Ratza for his contribution to no. 3 which looks like a nice layout.

After some consideration and a couple of beers, I've decided to try both 1 & 3, and possibly implementing some of the alterations that AndrewT suggested. I've been planning to buy some protoboard so my little boy can try out some circuits and it could be quite interesting - maybe I will discover the perfect layout (does it exist?)

Will post the results as and when!

Cheers as always!!

John
  Reply With Quote

Reply


Hide this!Advertise here!

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
super small lm1875 layout available? nerd of nerds Chip Amps 0 14th April 2006 05:34 AM
LM1875 PCB Layout mangrovejack Chip Amps 23 25th July 2005 10:03 PM
Please help choose amp layout. leadbelly Tubes / Valves 7 10th June 2005 04:11 PM
Need LM1875 PCB layout !! thomgun_lc Chip Amps 9 10th May 2005 11:35 AM


New To Site? Need Help?

All times are GMT. The time now is 03:53 AM.

Page generated in 0.09689 seconds (82.81% PHP - 17.19% MySQL) with 12 queries

Copyright ©1999-2012 diyAudio