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Old 19th September 2010, 03:21 PM   #1
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Default help please TDA 7386 problem :(

i just finished building tda7386 based power amplifier.i was unable to find a pcb so circuit assembled on a copper track board. schematic is shown here ->http://lh4.ggpht.com/_6QEbeUPgtas/TC...%2022w%20-.png

amp is working but sound not clear especially voices (cracking voice)and a big humm (hum reduces when i touch heat sink but it never goes away)and also there is a clapping like noise in back groun(clap..... clap...... clap......)and very low bass(compared to my 2xtda2005 amp)...

i used a pc power supply as power source an pc speaker set headphone out as input source (pc speaker set is based on 1w tda stereo ic i dont remember the model no)

some photos of the amplifier is shown below..

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some parts are below heat sinks but they didnt contact with each other
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since i saw lots of ppl here has chked this amp please help me on this
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Old 19th September 2010, 11:12 PM   #2
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Did you ground the heatsink ??
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Old 21st September 2010, 06:35 AM   #3
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The clicking noise comes from the computer power supply. It's due to the Switch Mode Power Supply thing, as it switches on and of very rapidly at high currents.
The hum is probably a grounding loop or the heatsink not being grounded. Did you cut of the tracks, so no long strips of copper are attached to the components?

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Old 21st September 2010, 04:31 PM   #4
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thank you guys for your quick reply.. i have no idea how to ground the heat sink can you pls tell me how?i think that clapping sound comes from the pc speaker set. i connected the input straight to the pc sound card then it(clapping sound) went away.also i connected 10k resister between sgnd and in then voice was 5% clear..

for joris i ddnt cut any tracks.long strips of copper is still attached to the components..but my problem is unclear voice is it bcoz of these long copper strips ????

thank you again for your help..

PS in another thread some of the diy audio member has replied to the bass problem saying to increase the input capacitor value, i connected another 204pf cap serial with 104pf then bass problems seems ok...
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Old 6th April 2011, 01:46 PM   #5
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Default TDA 7386 "blew up"! Help please.

I haven't done audio "tinkering" for years so am rusty. I have an Amateur Extra ticket and a home recording studio but am not all that good with electronics.

My mystery concerns two Kenwood auto radios I've worked on recently...a KDC-215S and a KDC-316S; both use the TDA 7386 IC amplifier chip. Before installing these radios in my old truck, I carefully confirmed ground, "hot" 12VDC, switched 12VDC, and I bench tested the radios with a regulated supply. I even measured the resistance across all the speaker wires in the truck, checking them for a short to chassis ground or the presence of 12 volts on the leads. When the radio was installed and I reconnected the truck battery, there was a momentary large current draw and, in one case, the 10 amp fuse on the Kenwood blew. However, in both cases, the front end of the radio survived fine...it will tune and play CDs throught the RCA photo outputs. But there is no signal on any of the four speaker output leads. I've read the spec sheet on the TDA 7386 and can't imagine what could have caused those ICs to fail.

So, I have two questions for anyone who would be so kind...First, where is the best place to buy small numbers of TDA 7386 amplifiers? Second, does anyone have an hypothesis regarding what happened based on knowledge of that IC? All worked on the bench with small speakers but failed the first time the radios were powered-up in the truck. There must be something I'm overlooking in that installation.

Thanks very much,
Jack (W0PKM)
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Old 6th April 2011, 07:09 PM   #6
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pc psu is a very intresting animal.
If possible, obtain a nother powersource for testing.
Best vould be 3x 4.5 battery packs, in series connection, or You can just hook it up to Your car's battery.
Post if You still experience the same problems, at least the psu can be ruled out.
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Old 24th February 2012, 10:17 PM   #7
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i ve same problem with tda7386, i used 12v transformer and 4700uf 50v capacitor my amp work but lots of hum sound clear all channel with hum i also connect eart ground, but hum not go awy. some body help me sorry for my bad English, i exactly follow datasheet
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Old 24th February 2012, 11:30 PM   #8
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Its probably an earth loop.
You need a star ground at the power supply.
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Old 25th February 2012, 07:16 AM   #9
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thanks for reply i tried every thing star grounding hum dont go away i am hopeless now i think tda7384 is faulty because i rewiring every thing nothing help. i tried my friend stereo chip tda2050 is play no hum if any one help me who try this ic with success
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Old 27th May 2012, 05:45 PM   #10
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thanks for reply i tried every thing star grounding hum dont go away i am hopeless now i think tda7384 is faulty because i rewiring every thing nothing help. i tried my friend stereo chip tda2050 is play no hum if any one help me who try this ic with success

i was able to correct this.. ground your heatsink. and build this on proper pcb..
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