Go Back   Home > Forums > Amplifiers > Chip Amps
Home Forums Rules Articles Store Gallery Blogs Register Donations FAQ Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Chip Amps Amplifiers based on integrated circuits

Please consider donating to help us continue to serve you.

Ads on/off / Custom Title / More PMs / More album space / Advanced printing & mass image saving
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 12th September 2010, 01:17 PM   #1
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Default Will This Pre-Amp Circuit Work

i want to plug my computer and or ipod into the preamp and it will increase the volume to the same line level of a cd player or dvd player's audio out which can be plugged into my stereo. without a preamp with my amp and my computer up all way the sound is not even that loud. ( i got the opamp BA15218 from a broken stereo it seems the be similar to the ne5532) i attached a picture of the circuit
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Scanned Image.jpg (127.8 KB, 229 views)
  Reply With Quote
Old 12th September 2010, 01:30 PM   #2
diyAudio Member
 
abraxalito's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Hangzhou - Marco Polo's 'most beautiful city'. 700yrs is a long time though...
Blog Entries: 46
Send a message via MSN to abraxalito Send a message via Yahoo to abraxalito Send a message via Skype™ to abraxalito
No, it doesn't look like it will work.

Overall there's attenuation on the iPod input of 33dB and the opamp gain is 27dB. So the best it can do is make your iPod half as loud as when its not in circuit. Your input 1uF is the wrong way around and your output pot seems redundant (as well as seemingly connected backwards). The 1uF output coupling cap would do well it be more like 100uF. The 27dB gain will probably prove inadequate for a mic input.
__________________
I think ideas are what you want to get rid of. I don't really like songs with ideas. - Leonard Cohen
  Reply With Quote
Old 12th September 2010, 01:46 PM   #3
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
will this modified circuit work better
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Scanned Image 1.jpg (147.8 KB, 208 views)
  Reply With Quote
Old 12th September 2010, 01:55 PM   #4
diyAudio Member
 
abraxalito's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Hangzhou - Marco Polo's 'most beautiful city'. 700yrs is a long time though...
Blog Entries: 46
Send a message via MSN to abraxalito Send a message via Yahoo to abraxalito Send a message via Skype™ to abraxalito
Its definitely an improvement

I'm a bit dubious about your initial premises - you say your computer doesn't go loud enough - but sound cards put out similar levels to CD players (1-2VRMS) in my experience.

On to your revised circuit - why the input attenuator then opamp gain? Why not reduce the attenuation (like have no attenuation) then have reduced opamp gain? Loss then gain is just a recipe for increased noise and distortion, it gives no advantages. I'd suggest having the volume control on the input, not the output. Your coupling caps (0.22uF, 1uF) still look rather too low. But its coming along...
__________________
I think ideas are what you want to get rid of. I don't really like songs with ideas. - Leonard Cohen
  Reply With Quote
Old 12th September 2010, 01:56 PM   #5
paulb is offline paulb  Canada
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Calgary
You should probably read this, or other tutorials on designing with opamps:
HeadWize - Project: Designing an Opamp Headphone Amplifier (A HeadWize Design Series Paper)
  Reply With Quote
Old 12th September 2010, 02:21 PM   #6
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
i should remove R1 and make C1 a 10uf non polarized
  Reply With Quote
Old 12th September 2010, 02:27 PM   #7
diyAudio Member
 
abraxalito's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Hangzhou - Marco Polo's 'most beautiful city'. 700yrs is a long time though...
Blog Entries: 46
Send a message via MSN to abraxalito Send a message via Yahoo to abraxalito Send a message via Skype™ to abraxalito
No, remove R1 and R2 and replace them with the volume pot, wiper to C1. Reverse polarity on C1 and increase its value to 1uF. Reduce 22k to 4k7, reduce 10k on output to 100R, increase 1uF to 100uF and put +ve to left. Add a resistor of 100k where the volume pot used to be. That oughta do it.
__________________
I think ideas are what you want to get rid of. I don't really like songs with ideas. - Leonard Cohen
  Reply With Quote
Old 12th September 2010, 02:32 PM   #8
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
what do u mean by but ve+ on left
  Reply With Quote
Old 12th September 2010, 02:35 PM   #9
diyAudio Member
 
abraxalito's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Hangzhou - Marco Polo's 'most beautiful city'. 700yrs is a long time though...
Blog Entries: 46
Send a message via MSN to abraxalito Send a message via Yahoo to abraxalito Send a message via Skype™ to abraxalito
I was talking about the new 100uF output coupling capacitor - connect its +ve terminal to the opamp output (the left side of the cap on the schematic). Currently you don't show polarisation on that cap, perhaps because its only 1uF.
__________________
I think ideas are what you want to get rid of. I don't really like songs with ideas. - Leonard Cohen
  Reply With Quote
Old 12th September 2010, 04:13 PM   #10
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
modified again
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Scanned Image 2.jpg (187.3 KB, 172 views)
  Reply With Quote

Reply


Hide this!Advertise here!

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Pre-Amp ...... Help wanted with Circuit poynton Solid State 5 19th June 2008 02:29 PM
Circuit Diagram / Schematic & Full Manual 4 Crown Ic-150 Pre Amp Wanted thermal runaway Solid State 3 1st May 2008 04:15 PM
Opinions on Mic Pre-Amp circuit gmikol Parts 10 12th February 2008 10:06 PM
6c4 pre-amp circuit dito Tubes / Valves 2 2nd January 2007 07:42 PM
Pre-Amp circuit for newbie Dangeruss Solid State 5 25th June 2006 02:19 PM


New To Site? Need Help?

All times are GMT. The time now is 05:01 AM.

Page generated in 0.09432 seconds (77.37% PHP - 22.63% MySQL) with 11 queries

Copyright ©1999-2012 diyAudio