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Old 7th September 2010, 12:37 PM   #1
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Default Buffered LM3886 + overthetop regulated power supply

This is partly an exercise in learning to use PCB CAD software so it's more complex than strictly necessary but I'd still like to get a good quality, good sounding end product. Any comments welcome.

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VAC A & B are the two secondary windings from a 160VA 30v toroidal transformer.

Power supply and main regulator circuit are from Roman Black's gainclone amp modified to be a symmetrical design.

Buffer/preamp pre-regulator design from Pre-Regulator

Buffer/preamp regulator from LM7815/LM7915 data sheet.

Buffer/preamp from ESP - A Better Volume Control (part 2) with a linear potentiometer used at input.

LM3886 circuits are pretty much generic.

Power switch and transformer circuitry not in the schematic.

Some of the odd component choices are because I have them in my parts collection already (eg lots of 2200uf 105degree capacitors), various power transistors and so on.

The links/jumpers are there so that it can be powered up and tested in stages.

I'll have to redraw the star ground, it's confusing the way it is with a shaded box.

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Old 7th September 2010, 02:11 PM   #2
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Things to do:

Reduce LM3886 decoupling caps from 2200uf to 470uF and add a low value non-polar cap.

Having separate stars for signal and power grounds may be a good idea.
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Old 7th September 2010, 03:29 PM   #3
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Hi,
the 3886 does not need a buffer at it's input.
Your inadequate source may need a buffer at it's output.

This is a very complicated PCB project. Why can't you start with something much simpler?
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Old 7th September 2010, 04:19 PM   #4
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Just out of curiosity, why the use of two op-amps (non-inverting buffer -> inverting op-amp with gain), as opposed to a single non-inverting op-amp with gain?
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Hi,
the 3886 does not need a buffer at it's input.
Your inadequate source may need a buffer at it's output.

This is a very complicated PCB project. Why can't you start with something much simpler?
See explanation below. It's probably misleading for me to call the op-amp a buffer.

Inadequate source? Can you explain?

All together complicated, granted, but each section is simple and easily understood. It's an exercise in learning that suits my level of experience.

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Just out of curiosity, why the use of two op-amps (non-inverting buffer -> inverting op-amp with gain), as opposed to a single non-inverting op-amp with gain?
The op amps are there to change the response of a linear potentiometer at the input to reproduce a log response. See the ESP link. Seems like an interesting idea.
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Old 7th September 2010, 05:17 PM   #6
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I really never did like that power supply design. Hey lets make a poor lm317 regulate till it dies and then have an external part shunt the current. Why Not just get a 5amp rated lm338

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As everyone is saying. Why the op-amps at the input at all. The Gain Clone has enough gain on its own to amplify a 100mV line input. Why add extra noise, distortion and complication with the op-amps.
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The op amps are there to change the response of a linear potentiometer at the input to reproduce a log response. See the ESP link. Seems like an interesting idea.
Oh, I didn't see a pot connected to the feedback loop in your schematic.
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Old 7th September 2010, 05:31 PM   #9
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The PSRR (Power Supply Rejection Ratio) of the Gain Clone is excellent. No need to overdo the PSU. LM317 / LM337 with good capacitors is more than adequate. A High Power Transformer with GOOD capacitors is probably just as good.
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NOT a good idea to use a potentiometer in the feedback loop of an op-amp. If the pot fails, the op-amp will go into maximum gain which would be horrible if not disastorous.
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