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Old 29th July 2009, 03:36 PM   #131
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PSU filter will only reduce RF entering and leaving the power supply from the mains. These are not necessary.

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I believe you are wrong.

That is why I always advise that any and every buffer and amplifier has an RF filter on the input. Without exception.
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Old 29th July 2009, 03:52 PM   #132
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Using my guitar amp's schematic as an example, there are "filters" that curtail high frequencies in many places, almost all feedback loops on every op-amp stage. Is that what you meant or did you mean power line local bypass small capacitors (100uF) positioned close to the op-amp chips?
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Old 29th July 2009, 04:07 PM   #133
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I believe you are wrong.

That is why I always advise that any and every buffer and amplifier has an RF filter on the input. Without exception.
i'm referring to power line IEC socket filters.

I agree they are a good idea. I personally use them but they are not strictly needed if you're not concerned with EMI & RFI, for example when building your first simple amp
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Old 29th July 2009, 04:22 PM   #134
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I believe you are wrong.

That is why I always advise that any and every buffer and amplifier has an RF filter on the input. Without exception.
I believe there is a misunderstanding. If the amp circuit itself is build properly with all the rf precautions, then a IEC inlet filter makes imho only a little difference.
AND if the amp circuit is not done properly, the IEC inlet filter won't help very much.
Anyway...I use them, if I have them lying around and if I don't have any, I can live without.
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Old 29th July 2009, 06:20 PM   #135
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Using toroids in the power circuit trades a little DC regulation for little to no mains RF isolation. A better choice is to use a little overrated EI core with a split bobbin. Failing that, then even bigger RFI input filtering is needed and your probably never going to approach the effectiveness of a proper transformer. Twisting wire in cables and proper grounding techniques helps but once RF is inside yor box it's much harder to get rid of.
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Old 29th July 2009, 07:28 PM   #136
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PJ, assorted IEC sockets are sold by practically every supplier of electronics gear. Over here, even the crappiest store has a range of a few types.

Do you have any electronics suppliers locally - even basic ones? They're worth using for this sort of hardware, if not the more esoteric stuff.

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My emergency store is Maplins (within about 10 miles of me). However, these Schurter modules are a little more tricky to source. Even Farnell (who do not usually charge postage) want £15 to deliver these as they are not stocked in the UK.

However, I haven't checked all the suppliers on the list behind pacificblue's link. But I did check every result returned by Google on the part number.
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Old 29th July 2009, 09:04 PM   #137
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I biought this from Farnell and never gave it a thought. I also had some older ones from disused/broken PC PSUs, almost exactly the same, come complete with capacitor across L/N already soldered on as a bonus.

http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/search/pro...sp?SKU=1516058

3 pounds 29 pence

Am I missing something else?
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Old 29th July 2009, 09:47 PM   #138
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pro wants a filter combined with IEC inlet and fuse and switch.
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Old 29th July 2009, 09:49 PM   #139
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I've possibly got carried away with the power inlet modules. That said, they look/feel extremely well made, they come with nice aluminium shielding and the internal components appear to be potted.
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Old 29th July 2009, 09:55 PM   #140
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Talking about getting carried away, I've been looking at the hookup wire over on Hifi Collective. Gulp. It's not cheap!

I was intending to use my trusty store of Maplin's finest. Will I hear benefits going for something a little more expensive eg the gold plated copper used by Peter Daniel?
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