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Old 22nd April 2003, 04:33 AM   #1
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Default Gainclone Problems; Aahh!

I've been building K50 as seen in kitsrus.com/pdf/k50.pdf.

Yet no matter what I do, it seems to occasionally start playing for a couple of seconds and then buzz. Sometimes it just buzzes. I have yet to get consistent playing. I'm using a 15v toroidal supply with one of the dual secondaries. I've also attached a potentionometer on the input.

What do I do? This has been driving me nuts for weeks!

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Old 22nd April 2003, 07:49 AM   #2
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could you give a better description of your powersupply or a drawing?
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Old 22nd April 2003, 08:00 AM   #3
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When you say buzz, does this sound through the music? Or does the music disappear and is replaced with the buzz? Can you describe the buzz? Is it noiselike, a tone, humm?

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Old 22nd April 2003, 08:41 AM   #4
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Why don't you try the following way?

Disconnect the (-) speaker wire from the board and directly connect it from the (-) speaker terminal to ground (star ground point).
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Hi, I'm experiencing a similar problem here. I'm using Jordans Gainclone PCB design that I found in one of these posts (sorry can't remember which). Anyway, the amp plays beautifully for about 15 seconds, then the sound gets distorted. When I turn on the amp without any input there is also no sound for about 10 to 15 seconds then I get a buzz/humm. The chip doesn't seem to be warm or anything like that, in fact it is mounted to a more than generous heatsink, I've been thinking it may have something to do with the caps. Any suggestions???

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Old 22nd April 2003, 01:10 PM   #6
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Actually, both problems sound like something is not wired correctly with the psu specifically the bridges. My first attempt had a similar problem. Are you using two bridges per channel? If you are only using a single transformer you should use two bridges per secondary. If you are using two dual secondary transformers, you can get away with one bridge per channel. How is your PSU set up?
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Old 22nd April 2003, 01:26 PM   #7
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It may help to measure the supplies from switch-on to when the buzz starts. Also DC output and input levels.

Don't just sit there, do something!

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Default Re: Gainclone Problems; Aahh!

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Yet no matter what I do, it seems to occasionally start playing for a couple of seconds and then buzz. Sometimes it just buzzes. I have yet to get consistent playing. I'm using a 15v toroidal supply with one of the dual secondaries.
???

You use only one of the two secondaries !? So you have a floating ground and use only around 9+/9- V for the chip. Or... ?

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Old 22nd April 2003, 03:01 PM   #9
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I do not hear any music; just a buzz.
I'll try connecting the speaker ground to star ground.
Ground is actually just the 3d pin on the AC cord I'm using (the green one).
I'm using one bridge rectifier, which outputs ~15 v (14.58 or some such number).
How should I wire the two secondaries? I have a few extra bridges, and I'd really like to get this all working.

Thanks a lot,

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Old 22nd April 2003, 05:36 PM   #10
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Ground is actually just the 3d pin on the AC cord I'm using (the green one).
You mean that´s the only ground you´re using in your circuit?
A lot would come clear then.
Your amplifier should work somehow without the "green one".
That´s for to ground the chassis and then connect to amplifier ground by resistor or so.

You should give a detailed description on the connections you did before you go on.

And please read a bit about the basics before you connect everything up or you might burn the house down ;-)

Have a look here for example :
Rod Elliots Site
A lot of nice articles to read and learn from.
Especially the one about proper grounding (earthing your hifi).

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