Please help us with this schematic, parallel LM3886

CJ900RR · 7th May 2008, 09:15 AM

Me and some other guys at a swedish forum have a question regarding a schematic for 3 LM3886. I think that this schematic is correct: http://www.leetmaa.se/misc/q1.pdf

But there is them who claims that this one, http://www.leetmaa.se/misc/q2.pdf is the way to go.

Witch should it be?

AndrewT · 7th May 2008, 09:40 AM

Hi,
both those amp schematics are based on inverting topology.
Zin for inverting is the series resistor/s feeding the inverting input pin.
For one amp this is 1k+9k=10k
For three in parallel this is 10k//10k/10k=3k3.
The DC blocking cap (4u7F) sees a load of 47k//3k3=3k1.
The F-1dB of that filter is ~22Hz.
The inverting topology has killed the bass response.
4u7F should be increased to around 56uF for extended bass response.

But, can the pre-amp or source feed a Zin=3k1 load impedance?

My answer is neither.

sreten · 7th May 2008, 12:03 PM

http://www.national.com/an/AN/AN-1192.pdf

Hi, what is wrong with the arrangement on page 8 ? ,

/sreten.

CJ900RR · 7th May 2008, 06:05 PM

Ok i get the point. This schematic then? Any thoughts about that?

AndrewT · 8th May 2008, 07:20 AM

hi,
r8 can go anywhere before the filtering cap, even before the input cap.

[r8 + Rsource] define the RC time constant of the RF filter.

CJ900RR · 9th May 2008, 08:24 AM

Hi Andrew and thank you for the time you put in to answering al my silly questions

I have made some thinking and please correct me if im wrong, but wouldnt this be a more correct way to aply the RF-filter: http://www.leetmaa.se/misc/qp.pdf

Many thanks...

peranders · 9th May 2008, 08:36 AM

Carl, have you studied the AN-1192 and also understood it? Personally I have used a buffer in front of these LM3886 and you have both space and the supply voltage which makes it easy for you.

I would also make a complete bridge connected circuit on the same pcb. It's a clear advantage to minimize the wiring, both when it comes to making errors in building and also picking up noise, RFI etc.

AndrewT · 9th May 2008, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CJ900RR
I have made some thinking and please correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't this be a more correct way to apply the RF-filter: http://www.leetmaa.se/misc/qp.pdf

that works. Whether it's more correct or better is debatable.

7th May 2008, 09:15 AM	#1
CJ900RR diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2006	Please help us with this schematic, parallel LM3886 Me and some other guys at a swedish forum have a question regarding a schematic for 3 LM3886. I think that this schematic is correct: http://www.leetmaa.se/misc/q1.pdf But there is them who claims that this one, http://www.leetmaa.se/misc/q2.pdf is the way to go. Witch should it be?

7th May 2008, 12:03 PM	#3
sreten diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brighton UK	http://www.national.com/an/AN/AN-1192.pdf Hi, what is wrong with the arrangement on page 8 ? , /sreten. __________________ There is nothing so practical as a really good theory - Ludwig Boltzmann When your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail - Abraham Maslow

9th May 2008, 08:36 AM	#7
peranders Electrons are yellow and more is better! diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Göteborg, Sweden Blog Entries: 4	Carl, have you studied the AN-1192 and also understood it? Personally I have used a buffer in front of these LM3886 and you have both space and the supply voltage which makes it easy for you. I would also make a complete bridge connected circuit on the same pcb. It's a clear advantage to minimize the wiring, both when it comes to making errors in building and also picking up noise, RFI etc. __________________ /Per-Anders (my first name) or P-A as my friends call me Tube Buffered Gainclone in work \|Thread

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7th May 2008, 09:40 AM	#2
AndrewT diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Scottish Borders	Hi, both those amp schematics are based on inverting topology. Zin for inverting is the series resistor/s feeding the inverting input pin. For one amp this is 1k+9k=10k For three in parallel this is 10k//10k/10k=3k3. The DC blocking cap (4u7F) sees a load of 47k//3k3=3k1. The F-1dB of that filter is ~22Hz. The inverting topology has killed the bass response. 4u7F should be increased to around 56uF for extended bass response. But, can the pre-amp or source feed a Zin=3k1 load impedance? My answer is neither.

7th May 2008, 06:05 PM	#4
CJ900RR diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2006	Ok i get the point. This schematic then? Any thoughts about that?

8th May 2008, 07:20 AM	#5
AndrewT diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Scottish Borders	hi, r8 can go anywhere before the filtering cap, even before the input cap. [r8 + Rsource] define the RC time constant of the RF filter.

9th May 2008, 08:24 AM	#6
CJ900RR diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2006	Hi Andrew and thank you for the time you put in to answering al my silly questions I have made some thinking and please correct me if im wrong, but wouldnt this be a more correct way to aply the RF-filter: http://www.leetmaa.se/misc/qp.pdf Many thanks...

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