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Old 13th February 2008, 07:47 AM   #1
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Default How to do Single center tap/bridge regulated supplies?

Hi all,

I have a broken amp with a good preamp section and I want to replace the amp section with a gainclone.
It has a huge tranny with +/-40AC and only one center tap. This gives +/- 55V DC output. Is there any good circuit to drop the voltage down to below 35V?
Note I don't want to take apart the tranny to get 2 CT.

I had looked at Pedja site (Thanks Pedja for the info) and there is a nice discrete circuit. But I don't know if it will work with single bridge +/- supplies.

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Old 13th February 2008, 10:23 AM   #2
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Hi,
you are looking to drop >20V across the regulator. That is a lot of heat to get rid of.

Either buy the correct transformer to match the chipamp requirement or build an amp that suits the PSU voltage.
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Old 13th February 2008, 11:36 AM   #3
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What are the auxilary windings that run your preamp section?
It should be possible to simply replace that center tap with another that has the right voltages for you. A 48vct with secondary windings for preamp, is a popular transformer.
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Old 13th February 2008, 11:53 AM   #4
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The sensible way is to make a couple of switch-mode buck regulators to drop the rails to whatever you need for your power-amp chip. You will need a different design for the positive and the negative rails of course as they will be sharing a common 0V.
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Old 13th February 2008, 01:11 PM   #5
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Thank you, guys. I only know the basic electronics, so a switch mode is a bit out of the question.

The secondaries are 94Vct (1A), 74Vct (3.75A) and 15Vct (1A). The 15Vct is for the preamp section.


I wanted to use the LM3875 with +/-35V.
Guess I will use the LM3886 with +/-45V. Now that's only a 10v drop.

Can anybody tell me if Pedja discrete supply work with some modification. thanks.
http://www.pedjarogic.com/gc/supplies.htm
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Old 13th February 2008, 03:24 PM   #6
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I wanted to use the LM3875 with +/-35V.
Guess I will use the LM3886 with +/-45V. Now that's only a 10v drop.
you can't run a 3886 on +-45Vdc unless the load impedance is near open circuit.
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Old 13th February 2008, 03:32 PM   #7
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How about +/- 42v? What do u mean by open circuit?
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Old 13th February 2008, 03:44 PM   #8
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open circuit=infinitely high impedance, i.e. no speaker connected.
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Old 13th February 2008, 05:40 PM   #9
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Hypex modules can theoretically run on 42v

ABS Max continuous voltage for general audio amplifier applications:
LM3886TF, 37v
LM3875T, 40v
LM1875, 31v
And, at slightly beyond this point you can use fans and/or add about 4 ohms resistance in series with the speaker output.

These maximum voltages aren't something to do on purpose, but rather. . . just a note on "where" that "too far" might be.

Also, too-high voltage necessitates higher powered input or higher gain setting, and at some point either can be a mess.

Hey, is that 15v a single (15v AC) or is it a 15vct (as in 15+15 AC)?
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Old 13th February 2008, 07:37 PM   #10
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IMHO you easiest solution is to use half-wave rectification on your existing transformer. If you add a regulator to that, plus you have the advantage of the excellent PSRR of the power amp chip, you will wind up with a good end product.
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