Multiple secondaries toroid

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Newbie here- about to buy GC kit... (have COMBED this board for info)

I have a 300Va toroid from an old outboard Velodyne power amp.

There are 4 pairs of leads + the sleeved primaries.
-2x20V and 2x24V

My question is: how do I connect these to a kit PS?

Should I leave any unused, etc.

Thanks!

P.S. I'll be bi-amping with the GC, a pair of current hungry ATC 4ohm.
 
AndrewT said:
the 20Vac will give about +-29Vdc
24Vac about +-35Vdc.

The formula I use for getting from Vac to Vdc gives me a different number from yours.

Mine is Vac x 1.4 - 1.4 = Vdc

It never failed to check on many actual transformers I used, after rectification and filtering. Before loading it, of course, as that could go lower in DC if trafo is not too good.

In above case would be:

20Vac = 26.6Vdc
24Vac = 32.2Vdc


Carlos
 
Re: Still unclear of connection

steveline said:
Can I use just the 24V leads from the toroid and leave the other 2 pair dormant/wrapped in electrical tape?

(For Brian's PS kit)

I am not familiar with that particular toroid. I might say you can do that. What I don't know is if you would be using the whole 300VA capability on those 24v leads.

The 20v leads might be in the same wire as the 24v leads, or they might be separate. Measure continuity from the 20v lead to the 24v lead.

If they are the same wire, it should be alright. If they are not it would be a question of knowing which line is using the thickest wire and is ready to handle the higher current. That's the one you should go for.
 
carlmart said:
The formula I use for getting from Vac to Vdc gives me a different number from yours.

Mine is Vac x 1.4 - 1.4 = Vdc

It never failed to check on many actual transformers I used, after rectification and filtering. Before loading it, of course, as that could go lower in DC if trafo is not too good.

In above case would be:

20Vac = 26.6Vdc
24Vac = 32.2Vdc
Hi,
the difference is easily explained.
I added on the regulation of about 6% and only subtracted 0.7V for the diode drop.
Oops i told him that dual regulators are required for isolation of the two audio grounds. So, reduce my numbers by another 0.7V and you still have to take account of the transformer regulation.
 
Re: Exact lead info

steveline said:
Here's what I was told by Toroid Inc. (maker):

Orange/Red= 23.7V

Red/Grey= 20.4V

Gray/Orange= 20.4V

Orange/Yellow= 23.7V

"309 Va, grays are center tap/become ground"

The wiring colours would suggest to me that this is a 24-20-0-20-24 amp. In other words the two 24v taps are the ends of the winding, with taps at 20v.

Is it possible the old Velodyne had a MOSFET output stage? This would explain the windings - the 24V taps would be used on the frontend, and the 20v taps used for the output stage.

Either 20v or 24v will do for the chipamp kit. Simply tape up the ones you're not using.
 
Nordic said:
Theoretical question....

What would happen if you were to parallel 2 such slightly diffirent voltage secondaries? Provided they can both keep up in the VA rateing...

What part is theoretical? What I am saying is that before knowing where to load what you need to know if the whole current can go through it.

You can parallel them if they are separate, and even so still have to know if they can hold the same current.

It only takes a DMM to check on that.
 
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