iPod's line level output?

Dxvideo · 23rd May 2007, 06:47 AM

Does anybody know that the iPods line level output is how much volts in eff?

Nordic · 25th May 2007, 07:05 PM

I think 1V into 32 ohms for the ipod shuffle... guess the rest of them won't be much more...

Dxvideo · 26th May 2007, 07:51 AM

No no. I meant the dock line level output..
However the earphone output is not as you mentioned. I read 300mV with a true RMS avometer. (with 1Khz 0dB AIFF)

Pano · 26th May 2007, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dxvideo
I read 300mV with a true RMS avometer. (with 1Khz 0dB AIFF)

Wow, that's low. I'm surprised.

Dxvideo · 26th May 2007, 10:55 AM

I was also surprised.

I heard "1V level" in many forums. However when I plug my gainclone to iPod's earphone output, I face that the level was very very low. I coulnt get even half of a CD players level from him. Then I downloaded a AIFF test signal from web then saw the bitter result!

By the way, last night I had a chance to measure the line level output from the dock 30 pin connector. It was really 1V!
I guess the 1V story is from this point. But in other hand my CD players output level is still 2V. So when using them together by selecting inputz then 3dB difference will occour.

And another obvservation; my iPods line outputs are very noisy. I can hear hdd start stop buzz very clearly at 20cm distance from my speakers even the volume level is very low. (while using with gainclone). However I couldnt hear that noise from earphone ouput at the same configuration...

Now whats that? Does anybody know why this happen?

Nordic · 26th May 2007, 11:08 AM

Can't help with why.. but some solutions

Increase gain of buffer, or drop CD output voltage with series resistor... or maybe both...

Dxvideo · 26th May 2007, 11:21 AM

The problem is I have no buffer on my gainclone. I have only an input selector and a potentiometer. Its a nude one.

Nordic · 26th May 2007, 11:40 AM

Absolutely worth spending an hour on... I recommend the Pedja Rogic buffer, you can find in the solidstate section... its basicaly 3 transistors, a few caps and resistors and a little PSU...

it is a HUUUUUUGE diffirence...and step up...

Dxvideo · 26th May 2007, 02:38 PM

But I already putted it to an enclosure. And I am not very experienced on mechanical things. I spent 2 days for just "enclosuring". Now you say put a buffer to the input.
Too much for me. I prefer to adjust volume pot while changing the channels.
Thx.

Dxvideo · 26th May 2007, 02:41 PM

You mean that?
http://www.pedjarogic.com/gc/index.html

23rd May 2007, 06:47 AM	#1
Dxvideo diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Turkey	iPod's line level output? Does anybody know that the iPods line level output is how much volts in eff? __________________ Best regards, Ozgur

26th May 2007, 07:51 AM	#3
Dxvideo diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Turkey	No no. I meant the dock line level output.. However the earphone output is not as you mentioned. I read 300mV with a true RMS avometer. (with 1Khz 0dB AIFF) __________________ Best regards, Ozgur

26th May 2007, 10:55 AM	#5
Dxvideo diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Turkey	I was also surprised. I heard "1V level" in many forums. However when I plug my gainclone to iPod's earphone output, I face that the level was very very low. I coulnt get even half of a CD players level from him. Then I downloaded a AIFF test signal from web then saw the bitter result! By the way, last night I had a chance to measure the line level output from the dock 30 pin connector. It was really 1V! I guess the 1V story is from this point. But in other hand my CD players output level is still 2V. So when using them together by selecting inputz then 3dB difference will occour. And another obvservation; my iPods line outputs are very noisy. I can hear hdd start stop buzz very clearly at 20cm distance from my speakers even the volume level is very low. (while using with gainclone). However I couldnt hear that noise from earphone ouput at the same configuration... Now whats that? Does anybody know why this happen? __________________ Best regards, Ozgur

26th May 2007, 11:21 AM	#7
Dxvideo diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Turkey	The problem is I have no buffer on my gainclone. I have only an input selector and a potentiometer. Its a nude one. __________________ Best regards, Ozgur

26th May 2007, 02:38 PM	#9
Dxvideo diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Turkey	But I already putted it to an enclosure. And I am not very experienced on mechanical things. I spent 2 days for just "enclosuring". Now you say put a buffer to the input. Too much for me. I prefer to adjust volume pot while changing the channels. Thx. __________________ Best regards, Ozgur


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25th May 2007, 07:05 PM	#2
Nordic diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2005	I think 1V into 32 ohms for the ipod shuffle... guess the rest of them won't be much more...

26th May 2007, 11:08 AM	#6
Nordic diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2005	Can't help with why.. but some solutions Increase gain of buffer, or drop CD output voltage with series resistor... or maybe both...

26th May 2007, 11:40 AM	#8
Nordic diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2005	Absolutely worth spending an hour on... I recommend the Pedja Rogic buffer, you can find in the solidstate section... its basicaly 3 transistors, a few caps and resistors and a little PSU... it is a HUUUUUUGE diffirence...and step up...

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