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Old 25th May 2005, 08:10 AM   #1
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Question why design angle into sub enclosure?

my friend said that when you design a (sealed) enclosure, it is better to make a paralellogram type box (where either the back piece of MDF or mounting piece of MDF is at an angle) rather than a square box (all 90 degree angles) because it takes a little bit longer for the sine waves coming off the back of the subs to reflect back at an angle to the back of the subs, thus creating some disonance because the sub will be producing a diff freq by the time it reflects back(considering it changed freqs). why is this good?

what angle is most preferable? rather, which will create optimum performance?

also, if anybody has designed a good box for two 12" Infinity Kappa Perfect DVQs, please let me know.

or if you're super cool and want to design a simple box for me, please do! mounting depth = 7" (178mm). cut-out diameter = 10-7/8" (277mm). compliance volume Vas = 3.31 ft3 (94.28 L). and [i dont know if you need this but just in case] free air resonance Fs = 22.01Hz. space is not an issue.
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Old 25th May 2005, 08:28 AM   #2
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Bizzarre one this:

With subs, where soundwaves are so long, then you will not get any standing waves or other nasty interactions on the cone, you simply get a change in air pressure in the car.

With mids, then absolute, minimising standing waves inside the enclosure is important.
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Old 25th May 2005, 08:35 PM   #3
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Default so i've heard

yes. i've read sub wavelenghts are large, something like 54ft(20hz) to 11ft(100hz) and yer box needs to be larger than half of a wavelength in order to get standing waves, thus, it generally isnt a problem with sub enclosures.

but what exactly is a standing wave and why is it bad? anybody know the technical side?
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Old 25th May 2005, 08:46 PM   #4
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a standing wave is a wave formed within an enclosure (and maybe folded between 2 sides) that can be exxagerated wrt other frequencies.

Regarding the non-parallel walls, the reason is related to standing waves, . but has more to do with ensuring that the waves reflected off the rear baffle doesn't bounce back and possibly interfere with the wave emnating from the driver rear, possibly leading to
1.cancellations / exxagerations
2. depending on the cone material, if the reflected wave is strong, it can pass back through the (relatively thin) cone material further smearing the front wave due to its phase / delay difference

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Old 25th May 2005, 11:16 PM   #5
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Talking well then

i should definately angle the rear baffle. is there a specific angle i should use or will any angle do?
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Old 26th May 2005, 12:50 AM   #6
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You don't need any angled surfaces on a sub. Period.

That should be the end of it but it probably won't be.
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Old 26th May 2005, 12:53 AM   #7
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All the posts add up to one thing: You don't need the angle for a sub. Speakers handling higher frequencies would probably benefit from it.
I believe that's what Zobsky is referring to.

Am I really agreeeing with Bill?
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Old 26th May 2005, 01:46 AM   #8
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Quote:
Originally posted by Variac

Am I really agreeeing with Bill?
Don't feel too bad. You didn't have much choice this time.
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Old 26th May 2005, 04:32 AM   #9
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Actually I don't mind agreeing with you, I just don't like people picking on innocent quivering newbies. Better to attack the tough old guys like me! We say some pretty stupid stuff too
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Old 2nd June 2005, 04:20 PM   #10
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The main reason for a slanted back is so the enclosure can sit flush against the rear seats which is often slanted itself.
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