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Old 2nd January 2014, 09:01 PM   #11
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The other Punch driver simulates in at -3.06Db at 35.43 hertz, a 114.1 liter enclosure, good for 611mm by 485mm by 384mm. Still at the ideal (perfect) Qtc rating of .71 Slightly smaller than the other one.

You really have to build the enclosure at the designed internal dimensions.....shrinking the enclosure size to "fit" the car really is counterproductive..........doing it right is the right way to go.
This driver is a step or two over the other Punch driver...lots of Xmax...and as I thought can be configured for sealed or Ported.......you think the sealed is big? Lemme' simulate it for a ported enclosure...things get really big, downright huge for ported versions...but that isn't what it's for..it's for car applications & not home applications.

Just simmed for a ported, not "bad" really at 752mm by 597mm by 473mm, with a 102mm diameter port, 202mm long.......but will get very deep into the teens (below 20Hz) before rolling off -3.01@17.78Hz.

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Old 3rd January 2014, 11:14 AM   #12
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What about Hertz subwoofers? I heard they are pretty good. I found this one http://content.abt.com/documents/48587/pdf_es300d.pdf . How bad or good it is compared to PUNCH Subwoofers - P2D4-12 - Rockford Fosgate® ?
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Old 3rd January 2014, 11:30 AM   #13
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Can you get a JBL GTO1214?

They'll go into a 50L sealed box with Q~0.7. Sounds more like the size you're after.
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Old 3rd January 2014, 01:16 PM   #14
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Can you get a JBL GTO1214?

They'll go into a 50L sealed box with Q~0.7. Sounds more like the size you're after.
heh, my friend has jbl and he doesnt like it at all. Also i can be im wrong but i read that jbl makes low quality stuff. And laso costs even more than examples before.
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Old 3rd January 2014, 11:11 PM   #15
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Well tomorrow im going to the shop. Need finally buy something, because after 3 weeks of searching couldnt decide which fits for me.
At last, u could give me 1 more time advice which sub of following 3 i should look for.
TS-W310D4 Pioneer - Speakers, Subwoofers - Car*Entertainment
PUNCH Subwoofers - P2D4-12 - Rockford Fosgate®
db1240DVC - Car Subwoofers | Polk Audio®

for 2ohm 300rms amplifier.

Write what place from 1 to 3 u would give. thx!
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Old 4th January 2014, 10:12 AM   #16
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2pcs of these: http://www.tb-speaker.com/detail/0624_11/w6-1139sif.htm
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Old 4th January 2014, 12:33 PM   #17
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Always wonder where u take these brands from Norway doesnt have them..
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Old 4th January 2014, 01:29 PM   #18
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Always wonder where u take these brands from Norway doesnt have them..
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With your budget, your goals, your amplifier power..you can´t get a better subs.

E: Actually http://www.dynabel.no/ you can find Tangband -speakers from Norway. Contact them.
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Old 4th January 2014, 07:02 PM   #19
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With your budget, your goals, your amplifier power..you can´t get a better subs.

E: Actually dynaBel AS you can find Tangband -speakers from Norway. Contact them.
Well u are right, but i rather buy expensive top quality home stereo than cars, maybe u cant understand this or maybe u have too much money to spend and to be able install stereo system at home, car, wc and so on. Just i see it different way and i see no point putting system for for over 1k dollars which is more than my car cost...
Anyway if i win a lottery i gonna buy a plane ticket for u and we will buy top quality stereo system and install it
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If you want something better then what you are willing to spend on new electronics maybe you should consider buying used this time. You can do much better. No cost of middle man and his fancy store..no coffee for him to drink..no tax...better components for you
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