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Old 8th April 2013, 10:01 PM   #11
loninappleton is offline loninappleton  United States
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I suppose it makes your wiener tingle or something.
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Old 9th April 2013, 12:00 AM   #12
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Default not really the argument...

KTMrida4life: As usual, the SQ guys think the SPL guys are ignorant rude idiots while the SPL guys can respect SQ.
Nope not the point to this thread. Ignorant CA folks who pound it through neighbourhoods is the issue, this is not a "loud vs. SQ" thread.

I personally love flat out SPL but can respect and appreciate a well done SQ setup, or any setup for that matter. Not everyone whose car is loud rides around full tilt through neighborhoods. To be honest, most that do that are usually pretty quiet and sound terrible and running junk equipment. When I say quiet, I mean <140db. Usually running Kickers/Hifonics/Lanzar/Boss/Pyle/etc. in a sealed box or ported prefab box tuned to 55hz.
Most probably not tuned correctly. Even mediocre stuff can sound good if installed and tuned correctly. But remember that a single exposure to as little as 125 dB (depending on frequency and if the level is at the listener's ears and duration) can produce irreversible hearing damage to the stereocillia (the little hairlike structures within the ear that help naturally amplify the sound entering the ear.).

I personally turn my stereo down in neighborhoods and usually at stoplights and have it up everywhere else.
Then you are certainly in the minority and others could learn from you.

Theres no feeling in the world like getting hit with 155db @ such low frequencies, like 30-45hz. Also at those levels, dynamat will not help you, or keep the sound inside the vehicle.
I've had a hit in a Rockford-Fosgate demo van with way too much power and way too many subs and it pressurized my lungs. And it wasn't what I might call musical.

As I stated, the real issue is the lack of respect afforded to others by a significant number of car audio folks (not all, there are always exceptions such as yourself...).

Lon: BIG bass actually can cause one to vomit or loose control of one's bowels, not my idea of "fun".
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Old 9th April 2013, 12:58 AM   #13
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Yes I'm aware of the effect that low level noise can have on the diaphragm (fluttering) and on the anal sphincter (involuntary dilation and muscle release.) This effect was first observed so far as I know at the premier of the film Earthquake during which special subaudial equipment was used to increase the reality of the show. That may be legend by now but I recall reading it at the time. Elsewhere in speakerland, Speakerbuilder magazine had a reference to such in a build using Sonotube. These were really big Sonotube speaks about 7 feet high. Sonotube is the cardboard casement for concrete used in construction.

I suppose you'd have to stick your finger in a light socket to get your parts tingled.

Before I actually went to the city council on this issue I asked those I knew about their experience with loud cars. One woman I know understood loud music but having the feeling in your chest when sitting quietly not engaged in the moment of the music she found disturbing as well. I call it a violation of the body-- something that the military may have thought of to do on one of their jaunts in Falujah. Or the obvious example id Ride Of The Valkyries from Apocalypse Now. It is entirely inappropriate outside of a controlled environment-- way outside like in a cow pasture with no cows in it for fear of getting curdled milk.

Elsewhere a friend who works on the docks opined that if I took the problem to the individuals involved the reaction would be "tough ****, buddy." I sort of hear that here and not surprised by it.

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Old 19th April 2013, 07:11 PM   #14
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"diesels like a Ford Triton"

The Ford diesel is called the power stroke. The Ford triton motors are gas powered and no longer produced.

They are not that loud compared to a Dodge Cummins diesel. I think the Chevy Isuzu diesel is the quietest.

Lawn mowers and weed eaters are pretty loud too!!

Airplanes, helicopters and jets are loud too!!

Point is everything is loud and makes noise to some extent, some people can tolerate it and some people cannot. If you want peace and quiet don't live in a city especially an apartment complex.

Move to the country. The air is fresh, and its very peaceful and quiet......although not at my house with guns, dirt bikes, loud music, and 400HP mustang....lol.

Good Luck resolving your issue with the Mitsubishi.

Have you approached the individual tactfully and professionally and simply asked if he could accommodate and respect your needs?
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Old 19th April 2013, 07:43 PM   #15
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This thread is about the general issue of loud cars. I have made contact with the city and they directed me to someone in law enforcement.

They cite these cars in the downtown (Friday Sat night etc) all the time I am told. The loud car thing started after I was a night cab driver here.

I made another thread on subsonic vibrations possibly related to car security systems. It has to be that or some utility vehicles working round the clock after an ice storm. I can feel the vibration while I'm sitting here at midday like a seat shaker in a car. It's hard to imagine that a passenger car can do that but utility gear like big dump tricks and generators might. I haven not seen any of this equipment nearby but it may be on untravelled streets.
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