targa 200 amp led turns on and off under a load

eroc1313 · 02:02 AM

this is an old targa hexfet 2ch 200 watts amp.when rca.s installed and speaker wires hooked up it is fine. when it is turned up , the power led turns off and on. the output transistors and power supply transistors do not get hot

eroc1313 · 10th February 2013, 02:05 AM

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Perry Babin · 10th February 2013, 02:40 AM

Are you 100% sure that the DC voltage across the power/ground terminals is remaining well above 12v?

eroc1313 · 10th February 2013, 09:27 PM

the power supply goes from 13.69 at idle. When i turn up the radio im using for a signal, it doesnt drop below 13.49 vdc. im using a fluke 117 meter with leads on power terminals of amp.its a little intermittant. sometimes it will work for a minute. and after testing, i touched the power supply and output transistors and they are barely warm

Perry Babin · 10th February 2013, 10:31 PM

Post the DC voltage on all pins of the power supply IC when it refuses to power up. Copy and paste this into your post.

IC#
Pin 1:
Pin 2:
Pin 3:
Pin 4:
Pin 5:
Pin 6:
Pin 7:
Pin 8:
Pin 9:
Pin 10:
Pin 11:
Pin 12:
Pin 13:
Pin 14:
Pin 15:
Pin 16:

eroc1313 · 11:19 PM

C#
Pin 1: 2.7
Pin 2: .1
Pin 3: 4.9
Pin 4: 0
Pin 5: 1.5
Pin 6: 3.7
Pin 7: 0
Pin 8: 12.4
Pin 16: 2.1
Pin 15: 4.9
Pin 14: 5.0
Pin 13: 13.5
Pin 12: 13.5
Pin 11: 13.12
Pin 10: 0
Pin 9 0
the light and the sound only cuts off for a little less than 2 seconds

eroc1313 · 11:20 PM

normal voltages with light and sound not cutting off are as follows for the ic>
Pin 1: 2.7
Pin 2: 2.9
Pin 3: 1.79
Pin 4: 0
Pin 5: 1.56
Pin 6: 3.7
Pin 7: 0
Pin 8: 12.44
Pin 16: 3.7
Pin 15: 3.7
Pin 14: 5.0
Pin 13: 5.0
Pin 12: 13.56
Pin 11: 12.49
Pin 10: 3.7
Pin 9 3.81

Perry Babin · 10th February 2013, 11:12 PM

You have the pins numbered incorrectly. Look up the datasheet for the IC to see how they're numbered.

Pin 16 appears to be the input that's causing the shutdown. You'll have to find what's driving that pin.

eroc1313 · 10th February 2013, 11:21 PM

i edited my last two posts , i numbered the ics wrong
im going to look at the data sheet for the ic

eroc1313 · 18th February 2013, 11:22 PM

it has the same pinouts as a tl494. the problem is pin 9 since i renumbered it. Pin 9 is the E1. Ill try to trace it down on the board to find the problem .

10th February 2013, 02:40 AM	#3
Perry Babin diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Louisiana	Are you 100% sure that the DC voltage across the power/ground terminals is remaining well above 12v? __________________ Links >> Basic Car Audio Amp Repair * Basic Car Audio Electronics * New Site * Basic Switching Power Supply Design * Basic Computer Skills << Links

10th February 2013, 10:31 PM	#5
Perry Babin diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Louisiana	Post the DC voltage on all pins of the power supply IC when it refuses to power up. Copy and paste this into your post. IC# Pin 1: Pin 2: Pin 3: Pin 4: Pin 5: Pin 6: Pin 7: Pin 8: Pin 9: Pin 10: Pin 11: Pin 12: Pin 13: Pin 14: Pin 15: Pin 16: __________________ Links >> Basic Car Audio Amp Repair * Basic Car Audio Electronics * New Site * Basic Switching Power Supply Design * Basic Computer Skills << Links

10th February 2013, 10:54 PM	#6
eroc1313 diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Texas	C# Pin 1: 2.7 Pin 2: .1 Pin 3: 4.9 Pin 4: 0 Pin 5: 1.5 Pin 6: 3.7 Pin 7: 0 Pin 8: 12.4 Pin 16: 2.1 Pin 15: 4.9 Pin 14: 5.0 Pin 13: 13.5 Pin 12: 13.5 Pin 11: 13.12 Pin 10: 0 Pin 9 0 the light and the sound only cuts off for a little less than 2 seconds Last edited by eroc1313; 10th February 2013 at 11:19 PM.

10th February 2013, 10:59 PM	#7
eroc1313 diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Texas	normal voltages with light and sound not cutting off are as follows for the ic> Pin 1: 2.7 Pin 2: 2.9 Pin 3: 1.79 Pin 4: 0 Pin 5: 1.56 Pin 6: 3.7 Pin 7: 0 Pin 8: 12.44 Pin 16: 3.7 Pin 15: 3.7 Pin 14: 5.0 Pin 13: 5.0 Pin 12: 13.56 Pin 11: 12.49 Pin 10: 3.7 Pin 9 3.81 Last edited by eroc1313; 10th February 2013 at 11:20 PM.

10th February 2013, 11:12 PM	#8
Perry Babin diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Louisiana	You have the pins numbered incorrectly. Look up the datasheet for the IC to see how they're numbered. Pin 16 appears to be the input that's causing the shutdown. You'll have to find what's driving that pin. __________________ Links >> Basic Car Audio Amp Repair * Basic Car Audio Electronics * New Site * Basic Switching Power Supply Design * Basic Computer Skills << Links


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10th February 2013, 09:27 PM	#4
eroc1313 diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Texas	the power supply goes from 13.69 at idle. When i turn up the radio im using for a signal, it doesnt drop below 13.49 vdc. im using a fluke 117 meter with leads on power terminals of amp.its a little intermittant. sometimes it will work for a minute. and after testing, i touched the power supply and output transistors and they are barely warm

10th February 2013, 11:21 PM	#9
eroc1313 diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Texas	i edited my last two posts , i numbered the ics wrong im going to look at the data sheet for the ic

18th February 2013, 11:22 PM	#10
eroc1313 diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Texas	got specsheet its like a tl494, its a Kia494p it has the same pinouts as a tl494. the problem is pin 9 since i renumbered it. Pin 9 is the E1. Ill try to trace it down on the board to find the problem .

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