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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Estonia
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I still have very little experience with class D amps so I will rather ask what to do than blow this amp doing something stupid.
Amp draws about 2,3A of current which I suppose is normal considering the LED show on the heatsink and amplifier size. There is no DC voltage between speaker terminals, no increased current draw when speaker is connected. I think that is because the relay does not click .Voltage between GND and speaker + is 33V I do not know if that is normal. Relay is SLA-12VDC-SL-A. Pinout can be found here: Buy relay, T90, PCB relay, 25pcs DC12V Electrical Mini PCB Type Power Relay SLA-12VDC-SL-A (T90) 5pin at Aliexpress.com Coil pins are on left top and bottom one? On those pins amp has 11V, so relay can not function? Amps Protection LED is not lighted, only Power LED. Transistors seem fine, no shorted ones when testing on board. Power supply FETs have 3,4V on their gates. Rail voltage is 42V and present on output transistors. What to check next, waveforms and voltages on HIP4080?
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: memphis tn
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U got a picture? Im thinking for the relay it could be a diode near it gone bad. And the hip4080 has most likely. Failed too.they always do. Also the output. Transistors will fail and not trip the protection. So check them out of circuit before buying a new ic and installing it.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Louisiana
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Do you see any audio on either speaker terminal (no speaker connected) when you drive signal into the amp?
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Estonia
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Perry:
No audio on speaker terminals. Timwebb: Will post photos afterwards. Outputs seem OK, what voltages I should read on output transistors in a working amp? In my amp I get 4 different results for 8 transistors: 1:37 2:48 3:34 1:1 2:34 3:-0,3 1:15 2:45 3:11 1:7 2:12 3:0,3 Only diode which I see near relay is one of RP diodes, connected between GND and B+.
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Louisiana
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What DC voltage to you have on pins 5, 6 and 7 of the 4080?
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Estonia
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5: 2,6
6: 10,2 7: 11,7
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Louisiana
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If it has a ZD1, it's defective. It's a 6.2v Zener.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Estonia
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It has DZ1, 1N4744A 15V Zener, appears to be in working order, has 15V across its terminals.
Near 4080 there is a DZ3 with 7V across its legs.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Louisiana
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In other 4080 based amps, the Zener is used to bias the audio to about 6v. That will show up on pins 6 and 7. The Zeners often fail and allow the voltage to go significantly higher. When you post a photo of the area around the 4080, I may be able to offer more specific suggestions.
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Estonia
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Here you go.
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