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Hello, today I received this amp, I bought on eBay.
I keep thinking, how someone can destroy an amplifier of this form. I counted seven mosfet destroyed, burned six resistors, four capacitors swollen, two ceramic pieces are missing, and sure there is more bad parts. I do not know where to start. Do not enter my head, how could that happen. Anybody can explain me? Tomorrow I'll start to repair it. |
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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Your in luck, its not the worst. Atleast the entire citcuit board isn't burnted. Damage like this comes from user/installer error. Unrealistic expectations, such as to play@ .5ohm with only 11volts while amp is running full tilt clipping.
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Yes, it is true, however, it still seems a savage ...
Why some people want to get more power than that which comes from the factory? Why not buy a more powerful amplifier, instead of using a little force it to give more than what can not? I do not understand. |
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Louisiana
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Some people think that they know more than the next guy if they can run their amps below the rated impedance.
This is one reason that I no longer work on MMATS amps. It seems that every owner thinks that every MMATS amp can and should be driven into a 0.25 ohm load. There's no way to convince them otherwise. I've given up trying. This is not a difficult repair. When they come in with all of the power supply FETs blown along with blown outputs, it's much more difficult. I only see one swollen cap next to one of the regulators. Which others are swollen? Do you have a scope?
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: Washington State
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That amp does not look that bad at all that should be an easy repair. Looks like one bank of output fets fried could have been a blown sub. You first need to remove all the shorted output fets from the circuit.
I am sure the MIC4420CT low side mosfet driver will be bad after a failure like that. You will need a few IRF3415 and IRF6215 output fets and some gate resistors and a driver likely. Does the amp power on is it in protect whats the scoop?
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Join Date: Oct 2010
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Im sure I am not the only one who sees a ton of gobldy gook inside the leftern torriod. What the heck is all that grey moosh? If the transformer is shorted you'll have to make sure it is able to be repaired or replaced before buying any other parts.
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Wisconsin
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They coat the transformers on the larger amps.
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: Washington State
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Some of the bd's were notorious for "whining" it was the torroid I think they actually vibrated. Didnt really hurt anything but was annoying and if you put your hand on it and applied pressure it would stop.
Rockford started coating them to eliminate the problem. That one looks like it was done by someone other than Rockford. I usually dont coat them like that as it would hold alot of heat. I have used silicone and epoxy both to eliminate the whine.
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: Washington State
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Some of the BD amps mainly the 1500's the torroids rubbed on the bottom cover and shorted out. This was another reason for the coating.
I will coat them and sometimes use spacers in between the sink and bottom cover.
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Louisiana
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I agree, it's likely to quiet the transformer. It was a complaint from a lot of people who had the amps inside the car or could hear it when their rear seats were down.
I also avoid coating them when possible. Sometimes you just need to move the windings a bit to quiet them.
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