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#101 |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Caceres
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Well, I have new results
I connected the potentiometer U17 as indicated in Seankane thread, I have also removed R31 and R35 No MOSFET transistor output on the motherboard When connecting, and testing, the pins on the motherboard of the first group of eight MOSFETs, -9.70v. and 9.68 v. respectively when turning the knob from right to left. But, to do the same with the other group of eight MOSFETs, and turn the knob, -9.92 v only appear as shown in photo Which makes me suspect that there is any fault in what belongs to that section, but where? Any hints? I will order more parts ... (LM6171, HCPL2211, MIC4420, etc. ...) |
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#102 |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Louisiana
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You need to check the input and output of each previous component (driver IC, opto-coupler, op-amps) to see where the input and output don't change together as you turn the pot.
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#103 |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Caceres
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Well, I'm here again
I have checked, U5, U6, U7, U8, U9, U10 and U15, Turning the potentiometer all well regulated, volts positive and negative volt, at its inputs and its outputs, except the output of U15 (pin 7) and the output of U6 (pin 5) to give - 9.70 v always I'm surprised that the latter are wrong, I have changed recently, is it possible that you are wrong? IC should I check some more? (TL 074, LM6172IM, .....) |
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#104 |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Caceres
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Hey, Perry, what do you think? the gould or the hameg?
http://www.ebay.es/itm/180864467380?...84.m1423.l2649 http://www.ebay.es/itm/120897679647?...84.m1423.l2649 |
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#105 |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Louisiana
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Sorry that I didn't see #103 earlier.
Confirm that the voltage measured directly across pins 2 and 3 of U15 are switching from 1.1v to -0.6v when you go from one extreme to the other with the potentiometer. If that's right and the output of the opto-coupler isn't swinging to plus and minus 9v, the opto-coupler is defective. I'm assuming that the opto-coupler has approximately 18v across pins 5 and 8. The scope with the sine wave locked on the display seems less likely to be defective. The one with only two straight traces could have several problems. Either one would should be good enough they are both in good working order.
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#106 |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Caceres
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Perry quiet, do not feel, I know I'm patient and wait
I've done the checks that have told me and the voltage measured directly across pins 2 and 3 of the U15 is changing from 1.4V up to -0.68 V when going from one extreme to another with a potentiometer. Between pins 5 and 8 is 19V And on pin 7, there is always -9.70 V, while moving from one extreme to another with potentiometer So I'll order a HCPL2211 (I heard that this IC, it is delicate to handle, is it true?) Regarding the scope, most likely, I do, is to follow his wise advice, and try to stay with the Gould Ø300 Thanks again, Perry, and when you receive the parts, tell what happens. |
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#107 |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Louisiana
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I don't know if it's delicate but you should treat is as it is.
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#108 |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Caceres
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Well, I got the A2211 (U15)
And, check voltages, I noticed that when you turn the potentiometer back and forth in the output of this IC, I have, -9.70 v and 7.28v is this correct? For a comparison with the other IC (U9) I have, -9.90 v and 10.28v Do these tensions should be more similar (7.28 and 10.28)? ¿I can ride MEHSA strip with all the mosfet? |
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#109 |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Louisiana
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Don't install the FETs yet.
Measure the DC voltage on U15 with the black probe on pin 5 and the red probe on pin 8. Post that voltage. Measure the voltage on pin 7 (black probe on pin 5 again). Post the DC voltage on pin 7 with the pot clockwise and counterclockwise.
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#110 |
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Caceres
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U15 probe pin8 red and black probe on pin 5: 19.68 v
pin7 (black probe pin5): 0.2 v DC pin7 right: 7.31 v DC pin7 left: -9.69 V (with the black probe to negative) I have also checked U9 DC pin7 right: -10.89 v and swinging .. DC pin7 left: 7.01 v and down ... |
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