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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
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hello
the rookie is trying to fix nice PPI Pc2600.2 I'm seeing few issues 1 -green light comes on but the amp is not powering .all fets are tested and no shorts and no repairs in the past that i can see.At the power supply fets I'm getting 1v on the gates and 11 on the middle legs 2- one of the driver cars looks like it was getting hot -bit brownish under it 3 the mystery- one resistor is mounted on the board but not soldered r192 its between q71 and q72 transistors .it looks like it has never been soldered to the board just mounted |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Wisconsin
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Are you seeing any voltage at the rectifiers, +rail, -rail?
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Louisiana
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1. That would generally mean that the power supply is running.
2. Does it look like the board it discolored or could it be something on the board? Is it discolored top and bottom? 3. Is there any solder on the bottom of the board? It seems like it would have fallen out if not soldered in. 4. Operating the amp without the bottom cover in place is dangerous because the transistors can overheat and fail quickly, especially if there is a problem. When troubleshooting it without the cover, install shunts on the 2-pin headers JP1 and JP4 while troubleshooting when the cover is not tightly screwed down. There are regulator transistors on each side of the amp. They will get hot and can fail even if there are no problems with the amp. Watch their temperature closely. If you do it by touch, only touch the plastic part of the transistor.
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Join Date: Dec 2010
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there is discoloration on both top and bottom of the board under the driver card .light brown discoloration .soldering looks bad like cold solder will do them again
that r192 can be soldered on the top of the board only ,i dosent look like it has ever been soldered there but why the hell should someone put it there ???resistor legs are gently folded so its stays on the board but not soldered |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Louisiana
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Since the legs are folded/bent, I'd suspect that someone was working on the amp, installed it and forgot to solder it. If the legs are bent, it could have been making good enough contact to allow the amp to work, or maybe they gave up on trying to repair it.
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Join Date: Dec 2010
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i guess so as well . the outputs have + or - 32volts so I'm thinking the power side is good
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Louisiana
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I would expect the rail voltage to be a bit higher. What is the 12v supply voltage at the amp's power/ground terminals?
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Join Date: Dec 2010
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i was feeding the amp thru adjustable power supply -11 v at the time of the first test ,readjusted to 12v and the rail voltage went to 40 ,is this the correct .the other driver card have some discoloration under as well .still no audio
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Louisiana
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Do you have a scope?
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Join Date: Dec 2010
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i do not have a scope ,maybe time to buy one
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